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Greenish Rat Snake Picture Request

CornCrazy

CornCrazy

What's one more???
I rescued a snake from the middle of the road yesterday. It obviously had some trauma to one of its eyes. The eye was filled with blood and was slightly swollen. I packed it up and took it with me to work today in order to give it a steroid injection. I am hoping that it will not lose its eye.

Anyway, I am not sure what kind of snake it is. I have heard of a greenish rat snake before and its color makes me wonder if that's what it is. If anyone has any good pics of a greenish rat snake, then I would LOVE to see them.

I will post pics of the snake I rescued in a little while.
 
OK...here are some pics!

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And his sore eye (which looks better today than when I first picked him up):
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Some of these pics make it look more yellow than it really is.

Ideas as to what it is, anyone?
 
I was looking at a site yesterday that had something VERY similar to this for sale... i looked up more pictures of it... Im sorry i can't remember the name! I think it was a beauty snake of some sort. Sorry terri.

Best of luck with this one though :) Very pretty, and great pictures. Im sure he will do great in your care :cheers:
 
As far as I know, there aren't any "beautys" in Tennessee. I have found snakes like this on a couple of occasions, but have not ever found out for certain what they are.

Once this guy's eye is better, he will be released. It is not legal to keep him. I may have to try to find a breeder somewhere, though. He's really quite pretty.

I've looked up greenish rat snake pics and apparently they are striped so that's probably not what this snake is.
 
Terri i have trolled google trying to retrace my steps, and it was a blue beauty i was looking at, heres picture comparison.

Also i tried to find a green ratsnake picture and this was the closest to that snake i came up with, i dont think its a green rat.

I dont think its either but thats the best picture comparisons i can find. Hopefully they can be of some help.
 

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Kudos to you Terri, for rescuing that snake. It is absolutely gorgeous!
It sure looks like a Texas Rat to me, but I don't know if their range includes Tenneseee :shrugs:
Greenish Rats are intergrades between Blacks and Yellows, and I'm not seeing that here, but I'm no expert for sure. :wavey:
 
The pic on the right looks to me like a Japanese ratsnake, looks like the one I had. Since neither it nor the beauty are indigenous to Tennessee, I don't think it's either one. It looks likes maybe a black rat with a greenish/blue cast. It's quite attractive. Can't you say you got it from a breeder? LOL
 
I thought it looked like a variant of black rat snake.

Sure looks obseleta to me, but I am most definitely not an expert of any kind on the grey/yellow/black/everglades rat complex. :D

Gorgeous snake, lucky critter, too.
 
dionythicus said:
The pic on the right looks to me like a Japanese ratsnake, looks like the one I had. Since neither it nor the beauty are indigenous to Tennessee, I don't think it's either one. It looks likes maybe a black rat with a greenish/blue cast. It's quite attractive. Can't you say you got it from a breeder? LOL
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I think you are looking at the pics that Tula posted and not the pics of the snake in question :shrugs:
Forgive me if I'm wrong
 
mbdorfer said:
Kudos to you Terri, for rescuing that snake. It is absolutely gorgeous!
It sure looks like a Texas Rat to me, but I don't know if their range includes Tenneseee :shrugs:
Greenish Rats are intergrades between Blacks and Yellows, and I'm not seeing that here, but I'm no expert for sure. :wavey:
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I looked up some pics of TX rats, and this snake does look a lot like one. I'll have to do some investigating to see if they've made it this far north.
 
If I'm not mistaken...

and someone will let me know if I am, Both the Gray and Black rats are indigenous to Tennessee. I've seen specimens like that before; not quite Blacks, not quite Grays.
 
Cflaguy said:
Both the Gray and Black rats are indigenous to Tennessee. I've seen specimens like that before; not quite Blacks, not quite Grays.
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Both are indigenous to Tennessee. I wondered if this was a natural intergrade between the two. I have looked at several sites listing snakes that are indigenous to TN and NONE of the listed ones look like this guy. Maybe I should do a test breeding with my black and gray rats (whenever the grays are big enough). It would be interesting to see what the babies look like.
 
I can't remember the site...

but this was listed as a Gray.
 

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So I wrote to Dwight Good. He is very knowledgeable about the snakes in this area. Dwight just lives a little over an hour from me. Anyway, this is what he said:

That's just a typical "black" rat snake from our area, they have that
coloration from southern Illinois eastward to southern Ohio and down through
Kentucky, Tennessee, and into Northern Alabama. Towards the eastern parts of Kentucky and Tennessee they start to appear more like a black rat should
look.

I don't have any pics on this computer, but there is a typical KY rat snake
pictured at the link below:

http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4772

Technically that snake would be a Midland Rat snake, or Elaphe spiloides based on the current taxonomic structure. Formerly "spiloides" was used as the subspecific name for grey rats but now encompasses everything that occurs between the Mississippi River and the Appalachians.

http://www.cnah.org/detail.asp?id=133
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CornCrazy said:
So I wrote to Dwight Good. He is very knowledgeable about the snakes in this area. Dwight just lives a little over an hour from me. Anyway, this is what he said:
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Well, that's "Good" enough for me (pun intended) :grin01:
Dwight probably knows more about obsoleta than anyone!
Funny, both of the rat snakes in those two links looked like greys to me :shrugs:
Back to the books!
 
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