OMGodzilla
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Awesome collection! Cant wait to see pictures!
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Hello from Western Oklahoma
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Dragonling
Doesn't do "casual"
Er, I guess it would make more sense to pair a daughter back to him instead. Maybe outcross to a nice extreme okeetee phase or something.
If the male IS red factor, you'll probably get some nice-looking hets.I hope to find a strawberry based corn to breed him to...but I'd have the same issue. If he's a ghost red factor, anything carrying hypo or strawberry is going to result in morphed offspring. A hypo female would give me all hypos and a strawberry female should give me all hypo strawberries (assuming he's just hypo). If he's strawberry for sure, bred to a hypo would have all hypo strawberries and bred to a strawberry would have all strawberries. The only thing that would help is that strawberries produce red pupiled snakes, if I'm not mistaken? So if I could judge the clutch based on that, I might have at least half an answer.
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Dragonling
Doesn't do "casual"
Mitch Mulks produces strawberry anery and last I checked had a female strawberry het snow available from this year: http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141462
If I could pick her up I would have already.
The pupils are black, but the irises in some strawberries I've seen do seem more reddish. Others look exactly like hypos to me. :shrugs:
If I could pick her up I would have already.
The pupils are black, but the irises in some strawberries I've seen do seem more reddish. Others look exactly like hypos to me. :shrugs:
From what I understand, the pupil thing works the same for strawberry as it does for Ultra and Lava....on the ones that are just one of those genes, you can see the red pupil fine as a hatchling, but as they age, it gets darker and harder to tell. The anery forms of those morphs gives you a purple ish blue iris with a red pupil and you can see that better/longer
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2 upcoming breed females
These two will hopefully breed this coming season for me.
Hydee is a Hypo Bloodred...unknown hets.
Veronica is het Hypo, Caramel, Lavender, Motley
I hope Veronica is a she and not a he. I need to get a set of probes and check, but her tail is super long and looks kind of male-ish. But if I really look at it, it's still tapered like a females. So, fingers crossed here!
These two will hopefully breed this coming season for me.
Hydee is a Hypo Bloodred...unknown hets.
Veronica is het Hypo, Caramel, Lavender, Motley
I hope Veronica is a she and not a he. I need to get a set of probes and check, but her tail is super long and looks kind of male-ish. But if I really look at it, it's still tapered like a females. So, fingers crossed here!
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Juvenile females
These 3 ladies will be breeding before too long, but not in 2016.
Thora will breed in 2017. She is a Hypo het Anery, Motley, Amel
Tessa is a Tessera. She MIGHT breed in 2017, but it might not happen. Technically she should, but she's a little smaller than I'd like.
Mystique is a Blue Motley (Dilute Anery). She shouldn't breed until 2018, but 2017 is possible...
These 3 ladies will be breeding before too long, but not in 2016.
Thora will breed in 2017. She is a Hypo het Anery, Motley, Amel
Tessa is a Tessera. She MIGHT breed in 2017, but it might not happen. Technically she should, but she's a little smaller than I'd like.
Mystique is a Blue Motley (Dilute Anery). She shouldn't breed until 2018, but 2017 is possible...
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MysticExotics
(formerly NWHeather)
Beautiful collection!
I bet you'd get some stunning Candycanes (or very close) if you bred Damon to a nice Amel female.
If you breed Captain to a regular Ghost, and get any red babies, he is RF.
Is Donovan one of the breeders that said he's a RF Ghost? He has done a lot of work with RF.
I bet you'd get some stunning Candycanes (or very close) if you bred Damon to a nice Amel female.
If you breed Captain to a regular Ghost, and get any red babies, he is RF.
Is Donovan one of the breeders that said he's a RF Ghost? He has done a lot of work with RF.
Yes Donovan has speculated something to that effect. But the guy I got him from swears strawberry is involved.
MysticExotics
(formerly NWHeather)
With RF being a dominant gene, you can easily determine RF or not by pairing with a non RF snake (preferably not red genetics).
I'm not as familiar with Strawberry.
I have seen a number of people on some of the FB pages that do not have correct genetics, but I do trust Donovan's judgement.
It will be a fun project. You have a number of fun projects!
Clutch #1 of 2015
These are the 3 keepers from the first clutch of the season. Pairing was Amelia x Yeti (Amel x Blizzard; both with unknown hets). I got 5 Snows and 8 Amels, so both turned out to be het Anery!
I kept a male and female snow, and a female Amel that I just fell in love with.
The Amel is Flare...she's a stunner. Super bright colors and crisp borders. She's technically and Amel het Charcoal, PH Anery.
The two Snows are Slagathor and Sansa. They should both be Snows het Charcoal. I didn't have this morph in my collection, so I went ahead and kept one of each and figured I'd either keep one or the other eventually or would find something else with both genes.
But, after having them for several months, they've started to develop a lime green/yellow ring around their saddles. A few people are working with this and are calling it Halo. I figure I'll hold onto these two and see where the project takes the other breeders and myself in the future.
These are the 3 keepers from the first clutch of the season. Pairing was Amelia x Yeti (Amel x Blizzard; both with unknown hets). I got 5 Snows and 8 Amels, so both turned out to be het Anery!
I kept a male and female snow, and a female Amel that I just fell in love with.
The Amel is Flare...she's a stunner. Super bright colors and crisp borders. She's technically and Amel het Charcoal, PH Anery.
The two Snows are Slagathor and Sansa. They should both be Snows het Charcoal. I didn't have this morph in my collection, so I went ahead and kept one of each and figured I'd either keep one or the other eventually or would find something else with both genes.
But, after having them for several months, they've started to develop a lime green/yellow ring around their saddles. A few people are working with this and are calling it Halo. I figure I'll hold onto these two and see where the project takes the other breeders and myself in the future.
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Clutch #2 of 2015
These are the 3 keepers from my second clutch. The pairing was Charlotte x Casper (Charcoal x Ghost). I ended up with 5 normals and 9 Anerys (I think), so Charlotte turned out to be het Anery as well. I also ended up with some Masque-ish babies in the clutch, so I'm guessing that Charlotte is also a low expression Masque.
The normal is Nagini. She is het Anery, Charcoal, and Hypo. I didn't want to keep a normal from the clutch, but I couldn't help it. She's got a really odd pattern and is super red overall. I'm assuming it's some sort of red factor, but I don't know a lot about that yet.
The two Anerys are Aragorn and Arya. They are het Charcoal and Hypo. They were both in blue when I did my photo shoot, so their colors are a little off in the pics. Aragorn is super light and possibly Masque...he has a lot of pink undertones to him. Arya is a lot darker...she's more black and white than her brother. She also hasn't begun to yellow the way he has.
These are the 3 keepers from my second clutch. The pairing was Charlotte x Casper (Charcoal x Ghost). I ended up with 5 normals and 9 Anerys (I think), so Charlotte turned out to be het Anery as well. I also ended up with some Masque-ish babies in the clutch, so I'm guessing that Charlotte is also a low expression Masque.
The normal is Nagini. She is het Anery, Charcoal, and Hypo. I didn't want to keep a normal from the clutch, but I couldn't help it. She's got a really odd pattern and is super red overall. I'm assuming it's some sort of red factor, but I don't know a lot about that yet.
The two Anerys are Aragorn and Arya. They are het Charcoal and Hypo. They were both in blue when I did my photo shoot, so their colors are a little off in the pics. Aragorn is super light and possibly Masque...he has a lot of pink undertones to him. Arya is a lot darker...she's more black and white than her brother. She also hasn't begun to yellow the way he has.
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Clutch #3 of 2015
These are the only 2 survivors from my third clutch of the season. Pairing was Watermelondrea x Yeti (Fluorescent Amel x Blizzard; both with unknown hets).
I got lucky and got a male and a female from the 2 eggs.
Angelica is the female and is super pink. She's gained a little more orange coloring as she's aged, but overall and compared to her brother, she's more pink. Her coloring is so soft looking. It's hard to capture and explain.
Jack is the male. He's much more strikingly orange and has a cool skull pattern on his head. They weren't strong growers to start out with, despite eating like little pigs. They've finally started to catch up with the other 2015 babies though!
I've had a lot of interest in the mother of these two, so I intend to keep them and attempt to further the fluorescent line.
These are the only 2 survivors from my third clutch of the season. Pairing was Watermelondrea x Yeti (Fluorescent Amel x Blizzard; both with unknown hets).
I got lucky and got a male and a female from the 2 eggs.
Angelica is the female and is super pink. She's gained a little more orange coloring as she's aged, but overall and compared to her brother, she's more pink. Her coloring is so soft looking. It's hard to capture and explain.
Jack is the male. He's much more strikingly orange and has a cool skull pattern on his head.
They weren't strong growers to start out with, despite eating like little pigs. They've finally started to catch up with the other 2015 babies though! I've had a lot of interest in the mother of these two, so I intend to keep them and attempt to further the fluorescent line.
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Cluth #4 of 2015
These are the 2 keepers from the 4th clutch of the season. Pairing was Lilith x Motzart (Bloodred x ?? Motley; both with unknown hets). I have another clutch of Motzart's that turned out some Anery based babies, so these 2 are PH Anery.
The female is Lolita. I wasn't going to keep her because she's "just" a normal. But her pattern is something I want to work on, so I did.
The male is Zorro. He's a Masque with a great pattern. He had the cleanest saddles, the best belly patterning, and a very clean head.
They're het Diffused and Motley and PH Anery...and then they'll be het whatever Motzart is...either Ultra/Amel or Lava. Time will tell!
They will be kept to breed back to the babies from the last clutch of the season to keep the blood line rather pure.
These are the 2 keepers from the 4th clutch of the season. Pairing was Lilith x Motzart (Bloodred x ?? Motley; both with unknown hets). I have another clutch of Motzart's that turned out some Anery based babies, so these 2 are PH Anery.
The female is Lolita. I wasn't going to keep her because she's "just" a normal. But her pattern is something I want to work on, so I did.
The male is Zorro. He's a Masque with a great pattern. He had the cleanest saddles, the best belly patterning, and a very clean head.
They're het Diffused and Motley and PH Anery...and then they'll be het whatever Motzart is...either Ultra/Amel or Lava. Time will tell!
They will be kept to breed back to the babies from the last clutch of the season to keep the blood line rather pure.
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Clutch #5 of 2015
These are the last keepers from my 2015 season.
The pairing was Motzart x Norma...thought to be a Motley and a nice normal...
I ended up with 9 red babies and 3 red/anery babies.
I am keeping 4 of these...2 females of the red variety, and a male...and a male of the anery variety. All of the babies are het Motley and the red ones are PH Anery.
Uma is the first, Ursula is the second. I picked two females that have a slightly different look to them so that I can watch them age. The red male is Ultron. I had another male picked out as well, but he has an odd deformity so Ultron's the only red male. The last is Uther...he's the Anery version.
Original guesses were that they were Ultramels and Ultramel Anerys. However, the genetics don't work with what the parents are. If they're Ultra based, then some of them have to be Ultras instead of them all being Ultramels, although I can't see a significant difference. The latest guess is that the parents are both Lava (hoping for this one ).
Either way, they are fun little babies. I'm hoping to prove Ultra or not in 2016. If I don't get Ultramels from breeding the parents to Homo Amel females, then it's pretty likely I've got Lava in my collection. Granted, I'll have to breed Lavas into the lines to guarantee it, but it's the best answer after Ultra.
These are the last keepers from my 2015 season.
The pairing was Motzart x Norma...thought to be a Motley and a nice normal...
I ended up with 9 red babies and 3 red/anery babies.
I am keeping 4 of these...2 females of the red variety, and a male...and a male of the anery variety. All of the babies are het Motley and the red ones are PH Anery.
Uma is the first, Ursula is the second. I picked two females that have a slightly different look to them so that I can watch them age. The red male is Ultron. I had another male picked out as well, but he has an odd deformity so Ultron's the only red male. The last is Uther...he's the Anery version.
Original guesses were that they were Ultramels and Ultramel Anerys. However, the genetics don't work with what the parents are. If they're Ultra based, then some of them have to be Ultras instead of them all being Ultramels, although I can't see a significant difference. The latest guess is that the parents are both Lava (hoping for this one
).Either way, they are fun little babies. I'm hoping to prove Ultra or not in 2016. If I don't get Ultramels from breeding the parents to Homo Amel females, then it's pretty likely I've got Lava in my collection. Granted, I'll have to breed Lavas into the lines to guarantee it, but it's the best answer after Ultra.
