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Cool find! But I'm not convinced that it's a pure cornsnake, or even an obsoleta x corn hybrid. I'm certainly not convinced that it's a naturally-occuring anery corn. The snake looks very obsoleta-ish to me. I'm more willing to believe that it's a black rat (or some sort of obsoleta rat).
 
True.. though, I had a naturalist friend of mine take a look and even he thought she was an anery corn. Hrmm. :confused: I will suggest black rat hatchling and see what he says. All the black rats I've EVER seen up here (at least four different clutches) were all grey and jet black.
Oh well.. I really don't care either way, but if she's a black rat, I will need a bigger tank eventually.
 
Parts of her head pattern look like rat snake, but head shape and other parts of her pattern look more corn. My friend is also confused, because he's never seen such a light black rat hatchling around here.
What are the chances of a hybrid, and is there any way besides pattern to find out? I'm still not sure she's black rat..
Of course, I'm not trying to be difficult. I am just really confused.
 
Gladly!

I held her for a minute today, and she started stalking my finger.. her belly isn't bulged at all, and she pooped last night.. another pinkie? They're pretty small pinks, and it's been over 48 hours.
 
OK, I've been gone a few days. Why ask if you should feed the snake again all the other advice has been ignored like don't touch the snake for 4-5 days until it settles in, give it another feeding after 4-5 days and wait 48 hours then you can handle in small amounts. The snake should be fed every 4-5 days then not held for 48 hours. Since you've done research, do a search for the Munson plan, that will help a tad with feeding schedule.
For goodness sakes if you're not going to follow the advice, don't ask.
 
Just another ote, if the heat mat is warm to your hand, it may be too warm for the snake. The glass over the mat should be 80-85. If tis snake is wild from VA and a hatchling the outdoor temp should do well for the snake. More heat mats and lights may cause damage. As for stick on thermometers they don't work very well.
 
I have said on here it's been hard not to hold her. I held her yesterday for no more than two minutes, and the reason I picked her up in the first place was to change her water. I wasn't about to poke at her to get her to move.
I have already looked at the Munson plan, but until I can afford a decent scale, I don't know how much she weighs. I also remember that hatchlings have fast metabolisms, and my pinks are REALLY small. I wanted to know if a bulge should be visible a day or two after feeding or not.
The stick-ons are reading accurately so far; I checked with a digital outdoor, but I can't use that in the cage. I'f I don't have the lamp and mat on, her tank is only 73 degrees in the warm end, and 68 in the cool.

I feel as if you are attacking me, and I don't understand why. I was being honest with having handled her, and was asking a simple question. If you don't like how I am treating my snake, then say what you want to say nicely, or don't say anything.
 
OK nicely if your warm side is 73 with a heat mat the mat isn't working properly. I am not attacking you but you do seem to be ignoring what people are saying, not handling means not handling. If you need to change the water gently nudge the snake to move. The last thing you want is a regurging snake. That would mean at least 15 days of not holding the snake. If you read the Munson plan nowhere does it say feed a snake after 48 hours, and it seemed you wanted to.
I just got another corn snake and I would love to hold him he is a 06', but the people I got him from fed him on Fri. and he had a five hour ride home on Mon. I broke down today and changed is tank as he was in a 5 gal and it was very dirty. He hasn't poo'd since Fri, so I am holding my breath he doesn't regurg. He is beig so cute exploring his new tank and watching me. So I know how hard it is.
By the way, while I give helpful advice and usually sound, no one on here would ever accuse me of being nice.
 
I found pics of a back rat juviniles that look very much like yours:
http://www.agfc.com/!userfiles/int_images/snakes/blackrat_juv_big.jpg
from this page:
http://www.agfc.com/wildlife-conservation/reptiles/snakes/black-rat-snake.aspx

and this guy from here
scroll down, more baby rats here
and here
google is your friend!


It will be cool to watch his progression. And susan is right, no handling for 48 hours. Regurge is not fun for anyone, if you can't go a day without handling your snake get another one and feed them on different days.
 
If you want something you can hold a corn snake or many snakes is not for you. I have 12 corns, one hybrid and one king, so that's 14 I don't hold any of them everyday or any day. They get held occasionally. I can't tell you the number of people who come on here and say Oh! I just had to hold my snake when I got him home....regurg Oh! no, now what....Oh! I could't wait ten days to feed him, hold him, show him to friends, regurg again, then dead snake. OK so this was kind of fast forward, but it happens a lot. In one month say you feed your hatchling snake on Wed. you can hold him on Fri, Sat, Sun you feed again another 48... then there is the 5-10 days of blue, the majority don't like to be held while blue (not that they LIKE being held at anytime). It leaves only a few days of the month you can hold this snake.
 
Susang-- last night, I put a post-it on her cage that says "no touching".. I'm serious. :) I'm HORRIBLE about letting animals settle in; it's a very bad habit of mine. I haven't even opened her cage today, but she is curled up in the front under her substrate, with her precious little head poking out. *squee* I HAVE read that some owners will feed hatchlings three or four times a week, and wasn't sure what to do.. is this a no-no?
Her mat isn't working nearly as well as I thought it should.. return it to the store and use the lamp? What do you think would be best?
I will admit that I take things very personally and was pretty upset last night; sensitivity combined with depression is never a good thing. :/ But I shouldn't have been handling, and posting that I had held her was rude, even if I only held her for a moment. I hope everything is "good" now, because I'd really like to stay here (even though I don't have a corn, it seems)

V_Various -- she does look like the black rats in the pictures on google, but her coloring for this area is unusual. Her head shape is also very.. corn-ish. Probably black rat, though, which is fine. I like black rats. :)
 
I would say black rat for sure, black rats and corns have similar head shapes (they are both rat snakes). Plus, the head pattern is totally black rat, and it 100% looks like the reference photos I found. Maybe you just haven't seen one that young before, any baby rat brave enough to venture out would probably be eaten by hawks.

I forgot to mention, black rats are so close to corns you should totally stick around this site anyway. Their husbandry requirements are pretty much the same, except they need a bigger viv when full grown.
 
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