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Help! I am lost for words!

Surimi

Surimi

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Hello

So this will sort of become a rant, but also i don't know what else to do and i could really use some advice!

So one of my friends recently moved in with this girl who has a corn snake. He has been living there for about 2 weeks and since he moved there the corn snake hasn't been eating. I went over last week and i saw that the conditions this snake was living in where just horrible. The enclosure is about 22 degrees Celsius so about 72 Fahrenheit and the Humidity is at 30 percent. While i was there i sprayed the bottle a little and moved the cage towards the heating. I told my friend that this was not acceptable and he said he knew and he tried to tell this girl but she wouldn't listen. The enclosure is also equipped with a huge light instead of a heating Matt! Also i picked up the snake and when i did its scales where flaking off onto my hands.

So it's been the 4th week now and the snake still hasn't eaten and now she is blaming my friend for it. So i sent him some care sheets and told him to give them to her and i asked him to take the snake to a vet. Even though it isn't his Snake i just feel like something needs to be done.

He gave her the information and she just kept saying the snake was fine before you came so its your fault and has nothing to do with how i am keeping it. She also told him to stop messing with HER snake because its not his problem. SO STUBBORN

I am going to his again tonight and i was thinking... can i just take the snake home? Its going to die there!

What do you guys think? What should i do?!
 
Can you maybe suggest she join this group for support with her snake? Maybe if she won't listen to advice given if she comes across the right things the snake needs herself she will be more interested in listening?

I am sorry the poor creature is going through this. Worst case scenario is there any animal groups like the mspca that we have here you could report it to? I would be worried about taking it for legal reasons unless you could somehow convince the person it just escaped annnnd smuggle it out like that. Not that I am saying that is the thing to do. >.>
 
I printed some care sheets out and wrote the forums website on them as well and put them on her desk.
I told my friend to tell her to read some stuff before, but he said she has but just doesn't care because up until now everything worked out fine so it must be his fault. She studies Biology so i am really angry/surprised that she can be so ignorant.

I hope she looks are the care sheets, i printed some basic bullet points and another one with more details. So really even if she cant be bothered to go through the details at least the most important things are listed.

I don't know what else to do, she didn't even want to take it to the vet, my friend said he would if it continues like this. Maybe the vet can confiscate the animal?
 
Surimi said:
So one of my friends recently moved in with this girl who has a corn snake. He has been living there for about 2 weeks and since he moved there the corn snake hasn't been eating.
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Did he move in with her as just a roommate or boyfriend/girlfriend?

If it is the latter, he is SORT OF responsible for it too. He should go and get the proper setup with the right temps and everything and present her with a surprise.

It is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission!
 
Have you tried approaching from the biology angle? Maybe if you can offer her documentation (peer-reviewed journal-type info comes to mind) that shows her that the loss of appetite can be gradual under poor living conditions, her scientific mind will have to admit that her husbandry, not her new roommate, could be the cause. Similarly, if you can find info on how belly heat aids digestion and the adverse effects associated with failure to maintain a proper temperature gradient, that might be easier for her to accept than admitting outright that she's been doing the wrong thing for this snake. Just another approach, in case this helps. Good luck with this truly frustrating situation...I'm hoping you'll be able to reach her and get that snake help soon!
 
Phruit Dish said:
Have you tried approaching from the biology angle?
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I left a care sheet for her that i wrote (i study biology as well) and i mentioned that the temperature affects the immune system as well as the digestion of the snake. Apparently she read it and then binned it and didn't change a thing. When i was at hers a moved the Terrarium a bit closer to the heating in her living room, but i think she just moved it back.
 
i just found out this is her 3rd snake. She kept 3 together and 2 of them have already died. She just wont listen and i don't know what else to do.
 
Horrendous story!!!! I know it's wrong but I would be accidentally leaving viv open and leaving sharply to get the wee guy home and settled!! I would offer to pay for my error !! But who does this!!! I've made an error with my wee guy and feel awful about it (he is gonna be just fine thanks to my favourite members advice) but where is this fools conscience?
 
Hiii

Sorry about being away for a while! So we smuggled the snake to the vet and the vet did a check up, the snake had a respiratory infection, and was dehydrated and it was living in too cold conditions...
So the vet gave us some things to take care of her and we bought her a heating matt to put under the tank.

Argh but after all that this girl yelled at my friend and threatened to throw him out of the apartment because he "went through her stuff." and she said the heating matt was stupid because the snake can light itself from the living room lamp and its a waste of electrisity.... at this point im trying really hard not to just tell her her snake died and steal it. She probably wouldnt notice anyways.

Well at least the snake is doing better now, eating again and its finally getting warmer again so i hope it will be ok.
 
Yay! One for the good guys! I don't condone theft, but in this case it was obviously "rescue".

Good job.
 
I also don't like theft, I like abuse and neglect even less. The snake might have to escape if money does not work. Terrible situation.
 
I may or may not have permanently borrowed a stray pitbull type dog that had been shot through the foot with a home crop job on his ears from a friend's house...he had been hanging out there for days and she called me and when I went over he was trying to play with her dog (not very well with the broken foot)...........my good friend ended up adopting him after her boss (veterinarian) repaired his foot...I wouldn't be adverse to doing the same for a snake in need, especially if it was blatantly obvious it was being neglected :(
 
smigon said:
Yay! One for the good guys! I don't condone theft, but in this case it was obviously "rescue".

Good job.
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I didn't actually steal it, i just really want to. :D The snake is still with her, but my friend is just helping her take care of it, even if she doesn't want the help. She clearly needs it though.
 
what worries me, is that if the snake should 'die' "escape', etc. that she will go get another one and put it through the same misery..
If she doesn't learn/understand what is right for the animal, she'll just do it to the next one, and the next one... (shudder)

That being said, I don't know a lot about lizards but a friend looked up lizards when I was contemplating getting one to scent pinkies.. I think there are certain geckos (?) that do well at normal room temps... Perhaps she could be persuaded to direct her reptile interests there?
 
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