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Hognose and GTP Pics

MegF. said:
All my green tree pythons eat f/t. They take weanling rats. You don't have to remove them to clean as they perch on their branches off the ground. During the day they are sleeping and you can jst reach in and clean. Many gtp are not good with handling but I have many that are very mellow...some of the most mellow ones to handle of all my snakes as a matter of fact. My one Sorong type can be held by children if they want to. For the most part, if I need to move a chondro out of the cage, I use gloves and lift them off the perch...takes a little practice to get the whole body because if they wrap a tail around, you have to sit and tickle the tip until they let go. As far as hiding, my corns never hid out. I don't feed weekly so my snakes are out and hunting all the time. I rarely had a cornsnake that wasn't out unless it was just fed or going into shed.
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Thanks Meg!
Yeah I still feed my corns weekly. Once they are adults they're going to be fed every two weeks. I only see my anery since she pops out anytime someone or something goes near the cage. The ones in the tubs always hide in the back >.> How similar are the appetites of GTP to ball pythons? My ball is the most finicky eater, so I'm downsizing his cage considerably with the suggestion that he's stressed out (from the ball forum). And would the GTP's do fine in a 3x2x2 cage as adults, or would they require larger, smaller? I'm just still in the thinking stages of getting one, I may not, but I'd still like to know in the chance I do get one :)
 
GTPs are more suited to glass tanks or things like Pro Cages or Rhino vivs for adulthood, we're about to upgrade Enzo into a 30x30x45 Exo Terra, and then once he outgrows that I think my OH is planning on getting him a Pro Cage, but something like a 60x45x60 Exo Terra would be great (someone please correct me if I'm wrong :))
As for handling, I gather that Arus are pretty tolerant of being handled, in fact the breeder of mine got the father out and he was as placid as anything, literally as calm as a corn! We were advised not to handle him at all until he's at least a year old as their spines are so delicate until they reach a certain age/size, but I can't imagine we'll be handling him much anyway once he is big enough. When we clean his tub we just take out his perch and balance it over another tub, he probably doesn't even notice and then wakes up later and it like 'Ooh clean!' haha.
At the moment he's eating f/t fuzzy mice, and I think my OH wants to get him feeding on rats eventually. He LOVES his food, nothing like the royals!! We can tell when he's hungry because he does this thing called caudal luring, which is where he waves the tip of his tail around to look like a worm to attract prey, it's adorable! And after about 7pm he looks like this

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That's his 'I wanna eatcho face!' face :rofl:
 
Well, my gtp's all eat immediately and aggressively. I've never had a poor eating chondro. I don't keep chondros in glass cages for several reasons. Open sides tend to stress some of them. Glass is a very poor insulator and in a cool room, you'll have a tough time keeping temps up to par...I even had trouble with my vision cage unless I wrapped it in insulation when I was quarantining in my other room. Snake room is not a problem with that since it generally stays about 80 or so during the day. My adults are housed in 4' long by 2' wide by 2' deep. They are made from melamine with heat panels on the roof of the cage and natural wood perches at two levels. I use sphagnum moss for substrate or have natural bio-earth cages. All cages have lights with live plants in them. Animals are sprayed with a mister every night to bring up the humidity. As far as caudal luring....even some of my adults do that (I guess they never grew up) My aru does it every time I spray even if she's eaten the night before. Never go by that....my chondros would eat every day if I offered. If you decide to feed rats, be aware that they are higher in fat than mice. I feed only every 3 weeks for my adults and they get one weaned rat as large around as their bodies. They are in good condition. Babies are fed every 7-10 days once off pinkies and right now, this new clutch is giving me such fits getting them to eat that they only get fed weekly for certain. Sooner than that...they won't touch it. Pythons are slow metabolizers and do not need the level of food that colubrids do....even cornsnakes are fed too much in captivity IMO. This is shown by the level of activity that most people experience with them.
 
Sweet. I avoid glass cages for the most part, I really don't like aquariums because they're such a hassle. I use showcase cages and sterilite bins. It's good to know that you've had trouble with heating the vision cages, since that is essentially what showcase cages are. I only heat the critter room in winter. It's nice to know that their feeding response is better than that of balls.
 
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