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How long can 3 baby corns be housed in a 20 gallon long?
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Housing
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CAV
Dazed and Cornfused
Now doesn't this feel "more homey and corny" than Fauna? Welcome aboard. 
Although three corns can be housed together in a 20gl tank, there are numerous risks involved. Check out these threads and you'll see what I mean:
Cannibalism
Another cannibalism attempt....
And another....
And another
Check those threads out and tell me what you think the answer is to your question.
Although three corns can be housed together in a 20gl tank, there are numerous risks involved. Check out these threads and you'll see what I mean:
Cannibalism
Another cannibalism attempt....
And another....
And another
Check those threads out and tell me what you think the answer is to your question.
jake the snake
jake
Do you think it would be alright If I kept them all well fed. I don't think They would canabalize if there not hungry. Whats your 2 cents. Besides there not miamis
CAV
Dazed and Cornfused
It can happen to all corns not just Miamis
Many cannibalism attempts occur right after feeding is completed. There really is no way to predict when or if. The question is are you willing to risk it?
There are several other reasons why housing snakes together can be problematic. Try the search function for "housing snakes together".
Many cannibalism attempts occur right after feeding is completed. There really is no way to predict when or if. The question is are you willing to risk it?
There are several other reasons why housing snakes together can be problematic. Try the search function for "housing snakes together".
jake the snake
jake
But what about the space. I might only keep 2 together now. They are both hatchlings.
Jicin
Corn love
Many people (including me) have 2 corns together. Usually canibalism is a result of to much stress. It doesn't have anything to do with beeing hungry. Though personally i don't dare to feed one but not the other since the other will smell quite nice If you give them enough space so each snake can find their own resting spot you minimalise risks. Because there *is* a risk involved. It's small though. Make your own decision.
If you give them enough space so each snake can find their own resting spot you minimalise risks. Because there *is* a risk involved. It's small though. Make your own decision.
Krenna
New member
That picture reminded me of when I was feeding my corn, I think some of the mouse smell got on her and I saw her trying to eat herself. I directed her in the right direction of the mouse. It scared me and I thought about that picture. Snakes are not very smart. If they are hungry and think its food they eat.
I would not risk having two corns together, spend the extra money and get another viv. It's better to prevent from having to replace snakes, after all you want to do what is best for the little guys. That way you can give both snakes the room they need to have.
I would not risk having two corns together, spend the extra money and get another viv. It's better to prevent from having to replace snakes, after all you want to do what is best for the little guys.
That way you can give both snakes the room they need to have.
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CAV
Dazed and Cornfused
"Here I go Again..........." -Whitesnake, 1987
:headbang:
This is completely false and incorrect information.
I said I would keep calling you on bad posts and I meant it. How many attempts have you personally witnessed Jicin?? The risk of cannibalism is especially high among hatchlings during and after feedings, hence the MAIN REASONS WHY SEPERATE FEEDINGS ARE RECOMMENDED.
Maybe the "stress" that pushes them to "eat in" is caused by having a "roommate". Ever think of that?
Nuff said.
Jicin said:
:headbang:
This is completely false and incorrect information.
I said I would keep calling you on bad posts and I meant it. How many attempts have you personally witnessed Jicin?? The risk of cannibalism is especially high among hatchlings during and after feedings, hence the MAIN REASONS WHY SEPERATE FEEDINGS ARE RECOMMENDED.
Maybe the "stress" that pushes them to "eat in" is caused by having a "roommate". Ever think of that?
Nuff said.
jake the snake
jake
I am willing to take the rick because the tank is large enough for more than one hide box.
jake the snake
jake
Thanks
Ice9
New member
CAV said:
This is very sound advice if you do keep more than one corn in the same tank.
After feeding , the aroma from the mouse will sometimes linger long enough on the snake to provoke a feeding response from the other snake so its always worth feeding your snakes seperately and perhaps keeping them apart for a while afterwards until the aroma wears off.
richie_irl
New member
Can I add a related question to this topic??
Is there an upper size limit to a corns housing?Im building a huge viv(33"x24"x22" or thereabouts) at the minute and was wondering can too big a viv cause stress?
Thanks
Richie.
Is there an upper size limit to a corns housing?Im building a huge viv(33"x24"x22" or thereabouts) at the minute and was wondering can too big a viv cause stress?
Thanks
Richie.
Jicin
Corn love
No viv can be big enough Just think of their natural enviroment. Now *thats* a big viv The only think you need to worry about are hiding places. As long as you got lots of them, as in the wild, your set Good luck with your viv. I would love to see a pic when you done.
CAV stop pretending to know better then a reptile vetrenarian. I've said there risks involved. And yeah you *must* feed seperately. If both start on the same pinkie one may eat the other. Other then that stop calling my vetrenarian a bad vetrenarian. He studied in school. Not in his backyard. And he has a few more years experience then you do. So stop calling this bad advice because it is perfectly valid. Nomatter how much you yell or tear your hair out.
Just think of their natural enviroment. Now *thats* a big viv The only think you need to worry about are hiding places. As long as you got lots of them, as in the wild, your set Good luck with your viv. I would love to see a pic when you done.CAV stop pretending to know better then a reptile vetrenarian. I've said there risks involved. And yeah you *must* feed seperately. If both start on the same pinkie one may eat the other. Other then that stop calling my vetrenarian a bad vetrenarian. He studied in school. Not in his backyard. And he has a few more years experience then you do. So stop calling this bad advice because it is perfectly valid. Nomatter how much you yell or tear your hair out.
CAV
Dazed and Cornfused
Jicin said:
Done, just as soon as you stop pretending to know everything about snakes. Until that time comes, I'm going to keep calling you out on the bad advice that you deem necessary to post in this forum. BTW, I know a lot of "educated" people that aren't very bright.
To answer your question correctly Richie, too much space can be an issue when choosing an enclosure for a hatchling. While "wide open space" does exist in the snake’s natural habit, you are placing it in a captive environment and changing some of the rules. This act naturally induced some level of stress and requires that some accommodations must be made in order to reduce the effects of stress in the captive animal.
What Jicin is obviously unaware of is that many professional scientists, biologists, veterinarians and long term reptile hobbyists have spend several decades (not months
) observing the effects of enclosure size, climacteric conditions and change, food sources, and human influence on captive animals. Their lessons learned provided the basis for many of the standard practices now in use by herpeculturalists world-wide.
MegF.
That's for sale???
I think the risk of disease spread is as much (or more of a risk) than cannabilism. I know people here who have their snakes together and have no problems. There are also lots who end up with problems. Go thru the search engine as Cav suggested, and read the million or so posts on the subject, and then make your own decision.
moonshadow
Keeper of the Menagerie
Umm... Jicin, where did the bit about the reptile vet come in? I may have missed something earlier but what did your vet say that CAV contradicts?
Also, I kept one of my younger, smaller snakes in a viv that was too big for him because I knew he'd grow into it. I figured that if he could move from one end to the other without being seen then he wouldn't feel so vulnerable. He has lots of hides and lots of plastic plants and vines to shelter him as he crawls around. So far he has been thriving. Its a real pain to clean but he seems to like it. My other snakes though are in smaller vivs for now.
Also, I kept one of my younger, smaller snakes in a viv that was too big for him because I knew he'd grow into it. I figured that if he could move from one end to the other without being seen then he wouldn't feel so vulnerable. He has lots of hides and lots of plastic plants and vines to shelter him as he crawls around. So far he has been thriving. Its a real pain to clean but he seems to like it.
My other snakes though are in smaller vivs for now.