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how can you tell.

cornsnakesrule2 said:
when the mouse is defrosted properly,whats the easiest and quickest way to defrost.

There are different ways...one is to put them in a warm cup of water and serve warm.
 
cornsnakesrule2 said:
also i heard bloodred corns are fussy eaters a bit more than others, i dont know how but its in one of my books,harder eaters.

I think that varies with the snake, not the morph.
What book stated that anyway?
 
I think it's actually in the Cornsnake Manual and I've heard it stated here numerous times. So I think there might be a bit of truth to the rumour!
 
MegF. said:
I think it's actually in the Cornsnake Manual and I've heard it stated here numerous times. So I think there might be a bit of truth to the rumour!

I stand corrected!. Again. :wavey:
I've must of missed that part.
But wouldn't be nice to track down that gene. Or whatever it's called.
 
I thaw mice under slowly running, very warm water. To tell when it is done, I dry it off and feel for any hard (still frozen) areas. I make sure the entire mouse is soft and warm. I blot it dry on a paper towel.

Nanci
 
The story behind the bloodred eating problems is that when the very first ones were being hatched in captivity, for the most part they were stubborn eaters that required anoles or anole scented pinks to eat. That seems to not be a problem now, as 100's (more like 1000's) are hatched every year across the world that readily eat unscented pinks and grow up just fine. FWIW I've kept two, and both were very willing eaters :*)
 
cornsnakesrule2 said:
when the mouse is defrosted properly,whats the easiest and quickest way to defrost.
There seem to be three popular methods:

1. Mice dropped in hot water, left until thawed; dry and serve.

2. Mice in ziplock baggie, baggie in hot water, left until thawed; serve.

3. Mice left on counter until thawed to room temp, serve.

I use #2. I think it is clean and easy, and my snakes are doing well with the method. I don't use #1 because I believe it removes some of the mouse smell, and I've had more snakes refuse to eat mice thawed directly in water than mice thawed in a baggie. I don't use #3 because I think it allows bacteria to invade the food.

You can tell a mouse is thawed enough to eat by feeling it. If it feels soft and warm when you squeeze it lightly between your fingers, it is thawed enough to feed.
 
I tried #2 but I found the pinkies wouldn't get as warm as the #1 method. They wouldn't eat them because they weren't warm enough, or their feeding response wasn't strong. I've never had one fail to take one right out of water if I dry it well and it's good and hot. the only ones who wouldn't, were the ones who wouldn't take anything. A lot of people wash the pinkies to remove the scent anyway as they get a lot of non feeders to eat them that way.
 
I've only had three so speak from a limited experience, but my three didn't care if it was #1 or #2, just so long as they got fed :) Since I've started slicing them, I've done number #2, so not as to have bloody mouse water. Sorry Roy, I just couldn't do it unthawed, when it was so much easy to do it pre-thaw :D
 
I use method #1 and don't even bother to dry them (haired mice will get "wrung out" first).

You can identify most baby corn morphs by their look as well. Most morphs are fairly easy, and the others, once you've seen them as a hatchling, you can usually pick them out. Personally, I've not worked with the Miami phase morph and have absolutely no idea how Carol can pick out the better Miami phase hatchlings from the not-so-good ones! It also helps a great deal knowing what the parents are and their genetics. If you bred a normal het caramel to a butter, that really dark hatchling is more than likely a caramel and not an anery unless you know that both parents are also het for anery. Some of the newer morph combos are getting more difficult to identify and are relying more on breeding trials for verification. Now that we're mixing the different hypos together and new genes are showing up, we're seeing more and more "whatzdat" hatchlings, but that's part of the fun!
 
I just put the food in a container, pour very hot tap water in and put the top of the container on.
I take the mouse out at the last minute and just dry off the excess water by just rolling it on paper towel and they are fine eating it that way.
 
MegF. said:
I tried #2 but I found the pinkies wouldn't get as warm as the #1 method.
Warming in the baggie takes longer than directly in the water, especially if you are warming a lot of mice at the same time. I leave the ziplock in hot water in the sink while I move snakes into their feeding containers. About every five to ten minutes, I replace the water with hot water again, as the cold from the mice cools it pretty quickly. It takes about 15 minutes to thaw 20 pinkies/fuzzies, direct from the freezer, to warmer than body temp.
 
Hmmm,haven't tried it but as I have all of mine eating them right out of hot water and dried with a paper towel it's not really an issue.
 
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