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how intelligent are snakes?

Choco sounds like she is a very amusing snake. :)

:-offtopic How well do those robot vacuums work anyway?

They clean very well. They are somewhat high-maintenance, though. If you don't keep them clean, they will die. I have four- I'm pretty addicted. They are all scheduled- they go on missions and return to their home bases without me. Once a week I do a thorough cleaning of them. One is assigned to my bedroom, walk-in closet and bath at 6AM, one does the living room, kitchen, laundry room, hallway and computer room at 7AM, and one does the pigeon's room at 7PM. When I get home, my carpets are always freshly vacuumed- it's wonderful.

Somepeople think Roombas are capeable of remembering or tracking where they have been, but actually, each mission is a brand new start, and they do a series of three movements- wall-following, spiraling and room crossing- over and over and eventually cover all areas of the room. Some have a feature called "dirt detect" where if they discover a particularly dirty area, as determined by number of particles hitting a detector, they will do a concentrated spiraling cleaning of that area. They also have cliff-sensing technology to prevent them from falling down stairs (which also sometimes prevents them from going onto a black area rug!) and you keep them away from places you don't want to go by using virtual walls with IR beams. (The newest series uses "lighthouses" with tractor beams to guide the Roomba from one room to the next and back to its home base).
 
"Last spring I got a robot vacuum cleaner. Choco quickly started coming out when the vacuum was running, obviously associating any noise/vibrations with my presence and the possibility of getting out. Unfortunately for Choco, the vacuum is scheduled to run by itself during the day when I am not home, now. I wonder if Choco comes out at that time."

Nanci, she probably comes out and can't find you and gets disappointed.

I was thinking about some sort of feeding maze to help exercize the snakes and to see if they are intellegent. I'm thinking about using a series of hamster tubes set up as a maze, only one way will lead to the mouse but there will be several cut-off that are dead ends. Use the same maze set up until the snake goes straight to the mouse and then set the snake in with no mouse to see if it has learned the trail. Then change the trail to see what happens.
 
I'm so smart, those snakes will never know its me in this costume!

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This needs to be an lolsnake! I love this photo!
 
I don't know how smart snakes are, but one of mine is sure curious! I was doing some rearranging up in my wine attic (big rack on top of the refrigerator- yeah, I know...space is limited, and if Sears had actually had a real wine cellar in stock today, I would own one now!) so I'm up there, on this chair, and when I got down and picked up the chair to take it back ot the table, there is Lila, who lives right next to the fridge, peering out from her vines in an area of the viv she never normally goes to, watching me intently.
 
I don't know how smart snakes are, but one of mine is sure curious! I was doing some rearranging up in my wine attic (big rack on top of the refrigerator- yeah, I know...space is limited, and if Sears had actually had a real wine cellar in stock today, I would own one now!) so I'm up there, on this chair, and when I got down and picked up the chair to take it back ot the table, there is Lila, who lives right next to the fridge, peering out from her vines in an area of the viv she never normally goes to, watching me intently.

That's when its hard to figure out what they might be thinking. Assuming they think. It could range from "I hope that person that brings me food doesn't get hurt on that chair" to "Nows my chance to get away while she's busy...oh crap she caught me!"
 
"Last spring I got a robot vacuum cleaner. Choco quickly started coming out when the vacuum was running, obviously associating any noise/vibrations with my presence and the possibility of getting out. Unfortunately for Choco, the vacuum is scheduled to run by itself during the day when I am not home, now. I wonder if Choco comes out at that time."

Nanci, she probably comes out and can't find you and gets disappointed.

I was thinking about some sort of feeding maze to help exercize the snakes and to see if they are intellegent. I'm thinking about using a series of hamster tubes set up as a maze, only one way will lead to the mouse but there will be several cut-off that are dead ends. Use the same maze set up until the snake goes straight to the mouse and then set the snake in with no mouse to see if it has learned the trail. Then change the trail to see what happens.

I'd expect you to get similiar results as to this that i posted a while back. :)
 
Oh, poo, this must be one of my dumb days. I must have read that ten times and I am hoping it translates itself in my brain by the end of the day. (Re the spatial maze.) Isn't a spatial what you flip pancakes with. :shrugs:

Nanci, she just want to be sure you didn't find her favorite bottle of wine "Mousecatel" that she hid up there.:rofl:
 
Oh, poo, this must be one of my dumb days. I must have read that ten times and I am hoping it translates itself in my brain by the end of the day. (Re the spatial maze.) Isn't a spatial what you flip pancakes with. :shrugs:

Nanci, she just want to be sure you didn't find her favorite bottle of wine "Mousecatel" that she hid up there.:rofl:


Spatula

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Spatial is just a way of referring to the relative position and size of objects in a 3D environment. :dancer:
 
OK, So watching the new HOUSE on the DVR last night and he makes a comment that applies...well somewhat.

(NOT SURE ABOUT APES OR MONEKYS)

But House (Hugh Laurie) makes a reference that humans lie, its what seperates us from animals.

If this is true, ad re-encarnation exists can I just come back as one of the great breeders hatchlings. (non culled of course!)
 
Animals definitely lie. Some animals will sound an alarm so they can hog food for themselves instead of sharing, birds act healthy even when they are sick so they don't attract predators, and etc.
 
Animals definitely lie. Some animals will sound an alarm so they can hog food for themselves instead of sharing, birds act healthy even when they are sick so they don't attract predators, and etc.

there are some birds that act like their wing or leg is broken to draw preditors away from their nestlings. that's lying.

someone said it is our tool making abilities that separate us, then we hear about animals that make tools like chimps and sea otters.

someone else said it was our compassion for other species, then you hear about momma cats feeding puppies and stuff like that.

Basically, we are all animals; just different forms. There is no difference between us and other types of animals except for our arrogance in thinking we are better than every other living thing on this planet and our skills in trying to dominate or destroy what we don't like, need, or want.
 
Interesting thread! I don't know how smart they are but even if my snake was just programmed like a robot I'd think just his physical and instinctual capabilities were beyond cool. They're sophisticated little predators.
 
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