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I Hate Birds.

susang said:
Wow, I have the same sentiments, only I took drastic measures to get away from home. In the end it all worked out just took me a little longer to reach my goals. But never once did I look back. susan
And I didn't have a crazy, unusually messed up family. Not great, no, but not horrible by any stretch of the imagination. Probably average. Even my wife, who actually had a pretty good family, loves her independence and wouldn't give it up for anything. She lived in a studio that had a giant hole in the floor that she just had to walk around, but hey, she didn't have to live at home anymore! She had everything she ever wanted or needed growing up, but sometimes, your family members just plain old drive you crazy. We like them a lot and we visit them often, but we'd go nuts if we had to LIVE with them.

But, sometimes I think that people who admonish children that they'll one day wish they were children again forget that lots and lots of people grow up in houses that they really don't/won't want to go back to.
 
The anger over the initial incident has passed and my parents and I have come to more reasonable terms. However, I find it interesting how quickly people assume that I'd be entirely incapable of taking care of myself. When I spoke of my parents providing food and shelter for me only, I was being quite literal. I see no difference in paying rent at friend's place with money that I'd just be spending on computer parts and animals here. I make decent money where I work, and in reality if I found a place that would allow me to stay and pay rent, etc, I think I'd make by alright. I'd have to have ramen for dinner for a while and learn to save my money but numerically speaking, I'm confident that I could pull it off and still have money to feed my snakes/dog.

regardless, I'm still here until summer of 09 when I move to NH, so I've got to tolerate my parents overreactions and illogical rules for a little while longer.

Being 16 sucks. You're constantly evaluated only by your age and never by what you actually have to offer to society or how capable you are of taking care of yourself. :nope:
 
My family did suck, I started to say didn't but you know they really did. I moved out at 17 after graduation. You probably could make it, I did and I was pregnant. However, I got my nursing degree at 22 after having three children, had to pay for them somehow (deadbeat dad, because I was so desperate to get out). The kids and I made it, but it was hard. In March of 2005, I finally got a BS in what I wanted Art History and Philosophy, I was 56 at 59 I got a Masters. Was it worth moving out yes, because what I have is mine. susan
 
I and many had very rough childhoods... but I bet just about EVERY teen has feel the same way you have. I left at 18 and made a go of it. I did not go back home but man... free rent was nice... food was good too. I made it.

but most of the people are saying that after a diploma they left.

Stick it out one more year.

Not sure if the extreme issues desert and susan had are the same as a dog and a bird. Mine was more extreme... and I waited... glad I did.


Every person is judged by age... fact of life... for good or for ill you will be judged by others. It is up to you if their judgements are worth anything.


I was and am not speaking against you... not at all, just saying that sometimes the anger fuels us to do rash things. That's all.
 
Shade said:
Being 16 sucks. You're constantly evaluated only by your age and never by what you actually have to offer to society or how capable you are of taking care of yourself. :nope:


I think most people evaluate a 16 year old based on what they remember of themselves at 16. We remember all the hard lessons we learned and how little we knew then compared to now. But hey, you're only 16 for 12 months of you life so live with it now and some day you'll look back and say "wow, I thought I knew it all..".
 
Shade said:
The anger over the initial incident has passed and my parents and I have come to more reasonable terms. However, I find it interesting how quickly people assume that I'd be entirely incapable of taking care of myself. When I spoke of my parents providing food and shelter for me only, I was being quite literal. I see no difference in paying rent at friend's place with money that I'd just be spending on computer parts and animals here. I make decent money where I work, and in reality if I found a place that would allow me to stay and pay rent, etc, I think I'd make by alright. I'd have to have ramen for dinner for a while and learn to save my money but numerically speaking, I'm confident that I could pull it off and still have money to feed my snakes/dog.

regardless, I'm still here until summer of 09 when I move to NH, so I've got to tolerate my parents overreactions and illogical rules for a little while longer.

Being 16 sucks. You're constantly evaluated only by your age and never by what you actually have to offer to society or how capable you are of taking care of yourself. :nope:

I don't think your 'ability' to care for yourself is in question. Financial difficulties are more likely. Having your own place isn't just about food and rent. There are also bills - gas, electricity, water - whatever tax applies in your area (here in England we pay council tax which can be more than £100 ($200+) a month). There's travelling costs of getting to and from work. Then you need a certain amount behind you at all times in case of vet bills, etc. Don't get me wrong, I don't think anybody has said you couldn't do it and that's not what I'm saying now - I think people are just trying to help you out because seriously, financial difficulty sucks.
 
I am 25 and not sure I can afford to live on my own here. I did with a roommate down in Blacksburg, where $375 a month got me a gorgeous apartment with my roomie. But there were many, many weeks where rent had to be paid and money was tight, and I literally ate only ramen noodles for a week. I lived paycheck to paycheck and swore that I'd never do it again, that I'd suck it up, live at home, and be patient waiting on the right time to move out. I pay for everything I do, including car, insurance, gas, cell phone, etc, but I don't pay rent. It sucks sometimes (I still share a room with my sister) but I am NOT wasting money on an apartment that sucks... when I do move it will be to a house which is an investment and not a drain.
 
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