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I need to vent!

Dustilyn

Dustilyn

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I had a couple snakes that I sold a few months ago. One was an adult sunglow motley and the other a yearling amel. I sold them with complete setups, a months worth of food and offered unlimited advice and support. The gal that bought them was younger, but seemed like a good home. My snow caught her eye and she decided she wanted one so a few days after buying my snakes she found someone selling hatchling snows and bought two of them.

Everything is going great with the snakes that came from me (as far as I know) except for a temporary escapee. One of the snow hatchlings won't eat though. I was trying to help her out with it even though the snake didn't come from me. I have sent her countless messages of advice and have told her multiple times that she should come to this site for ideas on how to get it to eat, but she never has.

Anyhow, I checked in with her today to ask how all the snakes were doing and she said great. She had force fed the snow crickets! just like Petsmart told her to. They also told her that her white snake was an albino, not a snow. I begged her not to go to the chain stores for advice and to come here or to me, but she just ignores me every time I bring it up. It is so frustrating for me to be willing to offer all the support and guidance she needs and to point her to the valuable resource of this site just to have my advice ignored. AND to add insult to injury, she is believes Petsmart of all people over me. That's just wrong! LOL. Makes me want my snakes back!
 
Wow that sucks. I know Petsmart has snake books or ours does and you can tell her to buy one. I think....it might have Kathy Loves first one but either way tell here to read them while in the store then...hook her up with this site.
 
should have just told me..lol.. i have a perfect spot for some more snows... no big chain store knows ish about snakes and most time they wont even handle them in front of you... very said to see what passes as husbandry anymore!! makes me sick
 
She force fed them crickets?! thank God the guys at the Petsmart we go to have their own snakes at home-they would never tell anyone to do that! not only do they go through the trauma of force feeding,but it's for crickets which won't even be nutrionally sufficient..I HATE when people bring an animal into their home & make that animal dependent on them then won't even take the time to learn how to properly care for it-I can see why you're so irritated at her!
 
A. A Snow corn is an albino. Albino means lack of pigment of which the Snow corn lacks two pigments - erythrin and melanin.
B. Crickets hold some nutritional value which means she is force feeding her snake some food. Look around a bit and you'll find all kinds of other """alternative""" food methods that people find completely acceptable, some of which hold very little nutritional value. Get used to it.
C. Congratulations. You've learned that other people can do whatever they want regardless of advice given to them. Some people need to learn by experience both good and bad, and oftentimes repeated. It's the new way.

D80
 
Ahhh, sarcasm. I have such an appreciation for it....when well placed.

Yes, a snow is technically an albino. That was such a frivolous piece to this rant, but you're right. However, telling someone their snow is not a snow, but instead is an albino doesn't lend a lot of credibility.

I'm sure there are many alternative feeding ideas out there. That doesn't mean I shouldn't try to guide her to what most consider best practice. The stress of a force feed much outweighs the scant nutritional value of a cricket to a corn snake.

Learning through life experience is in fact very valuable . However, when it comes to the life of an animal, particularly one I have loved and nurtured for any period of time, I have no qualms about offering advice, solicited or not, about how to properly care for that animal. Perhaps it's a matter of seeing the snakes as individual, living beings worthy of advocacy rather than inventory/commodities with a certain loss factor.

Thanks for the discussion.



Drizzt80 said:
A. A Snow corn is an albino. Albino means lack of pigment of which the Snow corn lacks two pigments - erythrin and melanin.
B. Crickets hold some nutritional value which means she is force feeding her snake some food. Look around a bit and you'll find all kinds of other """alternative""" food methods that people find completely acceptable, some of which hold very little nutritional value. Get used to it.
C. Congratulations. You've learned that other people can do whatever they want regardless of advice given to them. Some people need to learn by experience both good and bad, and oftentimes repeated. It's the new way.

D80
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Discussion is usually a two way street. I forgot that you just wanted to vent. Sorry.

Have a nice day.
D80
 
Back in the 80's I fed my Chicken McNuggets as I had a hard time catching crickets in the yard.
Sorry, Sarcasm is fun....
 
Dustilyn, Have you heard the saying "Does not have clue" or "You can't fix stupid"? In dealing with some people, you have to remind yourself of that. Yes, you can tell them what they need to do to take care of a snake, but the fact is only some will listen and the others will listen to advice from a friend or another source. Look at the bright side, at least she is not trying to feed them gummi bears due to they don't want to see anything killed for a food item. Yes, I have been around some real 'winners' in my life.
 
Gator said:
Look at the bright side, at least she is not trying to feed them gummi bears due to they don't want to see anything killed for a food item. Yes, I have been around some real 'winners' in my life.
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True story? Now that's funny!
 
Dustily, The real sad truth is 'yes, it is true'. The more I know about people, the less zombies scare me. Ha, Ha.
 
Gator said:
Dustily, The real sad truth is 'yes, it is true'. The more I know about people, the less zombies scare me. Ha, Ha.
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Oh geez. And they probably made this decision while sitting around chomping on hamburgers. Which brings me to another rant.....vegetarians who think it's a horror that I have snakes and feed them cute little mice (frozen thawed) yet they have dogs and cats. I always ask if their pets are vegetarians, because the treatment of the animals killed for dog and cat food is far worse that the treatment of the mice I feed my snakes.

I'm really on a roll here. i normally just quietly lurk. WTH? Something in the Colorado water I think.
 
Did you ever hear that saying, "no good deed goes unpunished"?
You either have to deal with the fact that yes people can be idiots, or become a hermit with no human contact...
Every once in a while you will also run across a brighter sort though, that does take advice and learn so hopefully it all evens out in the end...
 
I think this story has become the deciding factor in my snake breeding debate. My pets will simply be pets so I wont need to deal with people training.

I've had a lizard person try to give me snake advise as well. He wasn't dumb enough to sell me crickets, but he did try to make get a basking light.
 
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