Interesting day at the office!

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Opal X Lav het Opal

I have been trying to limit the post in this thread to the unusual and never or rarely seen before. I only have a couple females left to lay that would qualify. Most of my corns are of the more common varieties.

Lavenders are becoming common if you can believe that. This female laid 18 eggs today and it was her first clutch. I am a little surprised, but happy about the amount of eggs she laid. She is a Lavender het amel (Frosted perhaps) bred to an Opal male, so she may be considered unusual. Opals are not too common yet. This pair of snakes was produced by Rich Z and are doing very well obviously.

It will be nice to have Opals from his line and Opals from the line I created to work with and offer to others. There are some interesting similarities and differences. It is going to be fun to see how this morph develops and what colors they will take on, when we begin to selectively breed them.

The odd thing about the Opals so far for me, is that I have not been able to pick the nice ones as hatchlings. I labeled several this year, “Very orange”, Very Pink” or just WOW! And they did not turn out to be the nicest ones. I have a couple from last year that have incredible amounts of orange and pink on them and they were not labeled as special as hatchlings. The ones that were labeled have faded or are turning out to be fairly typical.

 

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Het Lava lav X Het Lava lav

Today was another interesting day at the office. Many of the females are getting bred for their second clutches and I got four clutches of eggs today from some interesting females. At least, I think they are interesting because they are project snakes and I have been waiting so impatiently for them.

This first clutch is my second female that is het for Lava/Lav. She laid 16 perfect eggs so that brings my total up to 30 good eggs from my Het for Lava/Lav X Same. Since my chances of producing a Lava/Lav are 1 in 16, I am pretty optimistic that I may get one this year. These females both ate two mice as soon as I took them out of the lay box so you never know, I may get some more eggs from them this year.

 

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Striped Lav X Amel poss Striped Lav

This is just an Amel Corn, but she is poss het for Striped Lavender and was bred to a Striped Lavender. I am more fond of the Red Amels than the Orange, but I like this girls rich colors.

 

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Striped Lav X Amel Striped poss het lav

This Amel is Striped, but doesn’t have good striping. I am actually starting to like some of these unusual patterned corns from my Striped Lavender Project. I have some from 2003 that I am raising that are awesome. She is poss het Lav and was bred to a Striped Lavender, so the babies should be interesting.

This amel is one that I suspect may be homo for the gene that is causing the “Sunset” Lavenders or a possible dilute gene. I really have no idea what is causing these snakes colors to be reduced significantly, but this amel is an odd color. Her colors are softened quite a bit, but still vivid. She looks more like a Creamcycle corn than most Creamcycles, but she is pure corn.

The previous Amel Corn is her sibling and the two are very different in color. Other Striped Amels from this project look normally colored. There is something different going on with this one.

 

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Lava Okeetee X Okeetee

This is a special clutch for me. This is the first outcross I have done with the Lava Okeetee to another line of Okeetees, other than the Sunkissed Okeetees. This Okeetee is a Kathy Love Okeetee and very nice. She should produce some very nice Okeetees with strong black borders that will be het for Lava and very vigorous.

 

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Lava X Snow Motley

I only have a few more corns left to lay their first clutches.

I was very happy to get this clutch. Hets for Lava/Motley/amel and Anery A. The target morphs will be Lava Motleys, and Ice Motleys.

I have already had some breeding from an Ice and Snow Motley for a second clutch, so hopefully I will get some male Anery A het Lava/Moltley and Amel to breed the the females from this clutch.

 

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Lava X Lav

I wanted a few more Hets for Lava/lav and this girl came through for me. She has a little Aztec pattern going on, which would be nice to see on the Lavas.

 

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Aztec Lav X Aztec het lav

I really like this little girl. I really didn't think she would breed this year, but she did and laid 9 perfect eggs. She has a very nice radical Aztec Pattern.

 

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Coral X Coral

This was my first Coral Snow X Coral Snow(Hypo Snow) clutch that I ever produced. Both parents are very pink, so I can't wait to see the picks of the litter from this match.

 

[Walter Smith]

Joe,

Who did you get your line of Coral Snows from? Or, did you produce them yourself?

Walter

 

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Hi Walter,
I wish I could tell you, but I don't remember. I bought a few Ghost at a Show in San Diego because I really didn't have too many at the time and wanted some to compare to the Ice Ghost. I guess you could say that I produced them, but I bought the parents they came from.

When I bred them together I produce about 1 in 4 Snows. This is why I know they are Homo Hypo/amel and anery. Otherwise, when they were born you could not tell them from any other snow.

At the time, I did not know what a "Coral " Snow was since I have been underground for quite awhile. I saved some of the male "Coral" Snows so I could perhaps reduce my male numbers and use them on Ghost or Hypos. I also saved a couple of females, because females are always nice to have around.

As they aged, the pink coloration really started to come out on them and it has a different look than a regular pink snow. I really like them, perhaps as much as some of my "Coral" Opals. They are very nice!

The photo attached is of the male that produced this clutch breeding a Ghost het snow. She has a lot of pink colorations too, so I am not 100% convienced that the "Hypo" gene is causing the pink coloration, but perhaps just helps to reveal it. This Ghost female is the one that I have used in the Ice Ghost comparison photo. She is much lighter than the comparison photo show, but when next to an Ice she looks dark.

 

[Walter Smith]

Joe,

I gottcha. I was just curios. I think too, these will be some very interesting cultivars as years go by, especially once they start to be refined.

Here is one I recently got from Don.

Walter

 

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Very Nice!

I have seen some "Coral" Snows from Jim at SWR that come from his Strawberry Hypo line. The Strawberry hypos are awesome themselves, but the "Coral" Snows that come from them are born Pink and are the best "Coral" Snows that I have seen. I don't know if this Coral Snow is one of them, but I do know that Don S. has some.

I arranged a test breeding between the Strawberrry Hypo and the Lava Hypo out of curriousity and we have some eggs. They just look so different and the history behind them is so differerent that I do not expect them to be compatible.

The same person (Carlos Lahitte) who is doing the Straw X Lava test breedings is also doing an Ultra X Straw test which is a little more likely to match up. He is also testing the Christmas X Lava, Christmas X Strawberry and the Christmas X Ultra.

This should be an interesting year when our "Hypo Test Project" eggs start to hatch. I can't wait to see some of the results. Carlos, will perhaps have the most "Test" Breedings this year.

Don S. is trying to reproduce my original test between the Lava and Standard hypo and Lava and Sunkissed hypo. The Male Lava I sent him decided he was gay or something and didn't take advantage of the first few girls, but I know that Don did got him to try girls again and got him to breed a Hypo Moltey and there was still a chance to get him bred into the Sunkissed line.

All of the test breedings will be very interesting indeed!

 

[Walter Smith]

Joe,

Thanks. Yes, this is from that exact line that Jim started. This is a pic. that Don sent me. It is a yearling of the same line as the ones I got from him.

It will be interesting to see what comes from the test breedings for sure. Please, keep me informed on how they work out.

Walter

 

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Strawberry Hypo

This is a Don S photo of a Strawberry hypo. I was talking to Jim about the Strawberry hypo because I really like them and all he would talk about is the Snows that come from them. I guess we know why now!

 

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Results from page 8 and 9

I was very happy to see 16 fertile eggs from this girl. An Amel Striped bred to an Opal poss het Striped. This is a result of the breeding on page 8 and the "Money shot" on page 9. Her sister, who was bred to the same male, laid 14 good eggs the day before, but she had left the lay box before I could take the photo.

So the least I will get is Amels het Striped Opal and if my guy turns out to be het for Striped I will also get half a clutch of Striped Amels het Opal. Now that will be nice considering how pink the Opal is from this mating.

 

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Coral snows

If those coral snows get any darker, they will look like amels. Perhaps something to watch out for.
I forsee a monster of confusion looming on the immediate horizon. When the general public start messing with these color combos, and impulse buys that get dropped off at pet shops, its gonna be a mad, mad, mad, mad world.

 

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Results from page 7 and 8

The race is on for Lavender Bloods! Oh, I forgot, Rich Z is already at the finish line. What about Opal Bloods?

This Aztec Lavender female was bred to a Blood male and just laid 15 good eggs and 11 plugs :crying: , but I will take the 15 eggs that are het for lav/blood and poss het amel.

I wonder how the battle between the Bloodred Pattern and the Aztec Pattern will turn out? Most likely, I will get a few of each. I bet half of these hets are Aztec. I am beginning to think the Aztec gene is Co-dominant like the Jungle pattern gene in boas.