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Intro, New Snake Owner!

Nanci said:
I agree- let him have a fresh start. He stopped using the chat speak, didn't he? He's making a concentrated effort to correct his spelling. Man, you can't fault his enthusiasm and love of his new snake- he just wants to share that with the world, who can blame him? Let's just gently guide him to proper forum behaviour- I think anyone who is so excited by snake ownership is of value to the hobby in general. He actually follows the advice he is given- immediately! He doesn't pretend to "know better" than the veterans. The long-timers he managed to offend have all been apologized to, sincerely, I believe. Give him a break. Geez, go look at his blog, go look at his snake that he is overflowing with pride in- you will see a genuine snake lover- maybe a _tad_ enthusiastic- but is that really wrong? Have some patience!

Nanci

Thank you so much Nanci, your truly amazing

Tyf, thank you as well, you have also been great in getting me a second chance, i will not make a fool out of you, i promise! and you can call me PCS or George : ) my mastake earlier in the "new hatchling thread" were i never read the whole thread, really made me feel bad, my mum is having a baby and i would not wish that on anyone so for that i would for the third time like to say sorry,

Thanks for reading.
 
Nanci said:
He actually follows the advice he is given- immediately!
Nanci

This is true, he has asked me many things on MSN and follows what I have told him.
He is a good guy.

Nanci said:
That could have happened to anyone. Imagine how horrified he must feel! I'm sure a tough lesson was learned there.

I was just pointing something out, that's all.
I wasn't having a go or whatnot. :)

He did feel pretty bad too, I spoke to him over MSN.


I honestly think people should stop having a go at him.
Remember when you was a newbie?
How would have you felt if you was contradicted, flamed, not been able to fit in, etc ?
I bet you would have thought "Screw this, I don't want to keep a snake if people won't help me".
But he didn't.
He his high in spirit, he is intelligent, he is good-hearted.
He is PROUD (As Nanci said) of his snake.
He wants to learn, isn't that what this forum is about?
Give him a break.

That's my opinion.
 
For one I did NOT post his previous name. I think he was able to show who he was hisself. Second, for one who says he DOESN'T want to have attention he sure has not proven that with his previous threads. Like I said I have twin 16 yr olds so I KNOW drama and attention getting, but I have not been witness to this much. I don't know him nor at this time do I think I could be a good sounding board to him. I too hope he turns hisself around, but like I said in my first post on this thread........SKEPTICAL!
 
Well, that was a mastake i made, and you know I actually did learn from that mastake, ALWAYS read the whole thread,

Thanks for all the support guys!

PcS
 
snakemom-

I don't know what else can be said or done by George to show you he wants to change. Sadly, it is reactions and attitudes such as your that make changing so darn difficult for people. You refuse to let the past go, you hold on to your skepticism, and you refuse to truly give him a chance to change. I don't think that's fair. I don't think anyone deserves to be treated in that manner when they make a conscious and concentrated effort to turn the course of their actions in a new direction. I think George or anyone else willing to make a new path deserves the opportunity.

I mean no disrespect to you. And I certainly don't intend to alienate myself in the process of defending George. But I can tell you with 100% surety that a teenage boy and a teenage girl are 2 different species.

It is simply impossible for you or your daughters to understand what happens to a young man during the teenage years. I understand, because I have been there. I had a lifestyle that desperately needed to be changed around many, many years ago. And I tried. I tried so hard to make things right in my life, and to set a brighter course for my future. Unfortunately, I was surrounded by people that kept shouting "SKEPTICAL!" at me everytime I tried to do the right thing. You have no idea how maddeningly frustrating that can be. You have no idea how depressing that can be. Every effort I made was scoffed at and ridiculed because of what I had done in my past. It truly is enough to make one want to give up the fight and continue doing what your reputation says you "should" be doing, and I don't thnk anybody wants that.

And this is an internet forum. This is not real life. This is not a life or death situation. This is not someone who has raped, murdered, pillaged, and plundered now seeking redemption. This is a young kid, with a big mouth and bag full of confidence, who realized that his actions were not what he wanted them to be. This is really very easy. It is an internet forum, and as such, I truly think you are tkaing it WAAAAY too personally.

If you don't trust George and his new intentions, that is fine. But let it go. If you don't like George, fine...but let it go. There is no need to keep telling everyone how skeptical you are. There is no need to shout "SKEPTCAL" everytime he makes a statement. there is no need to point out who he USED to be everytime he makes a new post. Simply ignore him. If you don't think he deserves a second chance, that is fine...don't give him one. But there are a number of people who believe he deserves a second chance and are willing to give him one. We will not prevent you from continuing to be skeptical. Please do not try to prevent us from giving him a new start. For goodness sake, at the very least...just leave the kid alone, and let it go. It really isn't that important, is it?
 
I'm sure as a new owner I may have made posts that weren't the most intelligent, but for the most part I DID try to search before I asked. And i know how teens need attention, MAN DO I KNOW....lol. but that doesn't mean they can be abusive, obnoxious, and down right rude to others. Like I said before if either of my girls behaved like George did I'd have thier hides.!......
 
snakemom1961 said:
I'm sure as a new owner I may have made posts that weren't the most intelligent, but for the most part I DID try to search before I asked. And i know how teens need attention, MAN DO I KNOW....lol. but that doesn't mean they can be abusive, obnoxious, and down right rude to others. Like I said before if either of my girls behaved like George did I'd have thier hides.!......

You're absolutely right. But isn't the whole point to realize your mistakes and improve on your past? Both in life and in forums? Isn't that really all that can be asked of anyone, ever?
 
tyflier said:
snakemom-

I don't know what else can be said or done by George to show you he wants to change. Sadly, it is reactions and attitudes such as your that make changing so darn difficult for people. You refuse to let the past go, you hold on to your skepticism, and you refuse to truly give him a chance to change. I don't think that's fair. I don't think anyone deserves to be treated in that manner when they make a conscious and concentrated effort to turn the course of their actions in a new direction. I think George or anyone else willing to make a new path deserves the opportunity.

I mean no disrespect to you. And I certainly don't intend to alienate myself in the process of defending George. But I can tell you with 100% surety that a teenage boy and a teenage girl are 2 different species.

It is simply impossible for you or your daughters to understand what happens to a young man during the teenage years. I understand, because I have been there. I had a lifestyle that desperately needed to be changed around many, many years ago. And I tried. I tried so hard to make things right in my life, and to set a brighter course for my future. Unfortunately, I was surrounded by people that kept shouting "SKEPTICAL!" at me everytime I tried to do the right thing. You have no idea how maddeningly frustrating that can be. You have no idea how depressing that can be. Every effort I made was scoffed at and ridiculed because of what I had done in my past. It truly is enough to make one want to give up the fight and continue doing what your reputation says you "should" be doing, and I don't thnk anybody wants that.

And this is an internet forum. This is not real life. This is not a life or death situation. This is not someone who has raped, murdered, pillaged, and plundered now seeking redemption. This is a young kid, with a big mouth and bag full of confidence, who realized that his actions were not what he wanted them to be. This is really very easy. It is an internet forum, and as such, I truly think you are tkaing it WAAAAY too personally.

If you don't trust George and his new intentions, that is fine. But let it go. If you don't like George, fine...but let it go. There is no need to keep telling everyone how skeptical you are. There is no need to shout "SKEPTCAL" everytime he makes a statement. there is no need to point out who he USED to be everytime he makes a new post. Simply ignore him. If you don't think he deserves a second chance, that is fine...don't give him one. But there are a number of people who believe he deserves a second chance and are willing to give him one. We will not prevent you from continuing to be skeptical. Please do not try to prevent us from giving him a new start. For goodness sake, at the very least...just leave the kid alone, and let it go. It really isn't that important, is it?

You are SOOOOOOOOO right......my 18 year old son was SOOOOOOOO much eaiser to raise then my twin daughters. as far as this being a FORUM. I know forums and chat rooms. I know real life and NOT real life. All I am trying to do is tell George is to NOT become who he was before, which from the sounds of it he will......Time will tell and We will see. Do I want him to change? OF COURSE, but I've seen too many ppl NOT change and I'm not just talking teens. GOOD LUCK GEORGE!
 
snakemom wrote:
You are SOOOOOOOOO right......my 18 year old son was SOOOOOOOO much eaiser to raise then my twin daughters.

I say consider yourself lucky. Boys are not always easy, and yours must have had quite a bit of reliable ad repsonsible help to have been "easy". At the ripe old age of 33...I really feel bad about the hell I put my mother through. I grew up in a large city, in a tough neighborhood, and I was every bit the "tough guy" that I *thought* I needed to be to make it. I was anything but easy...

I am SOOOOO glad I have a girl. I may have to worry about every boy in town, but I know how to handle them. Daddy owns a shotgun ;).
 
Well I have grown up in the mid sized town I live in now and have raised my 3 children here. Has it been easy? OH HECK NO, We've had our battles, but I can truly say of my 3, my son was truly the easiest, so long as he could hunt or fish he was a happy camper!.lol.........my girls on the other hand.......OOOOO MY GOSH! HEAVEN HELP ME!

you just wait till your little girl is a 16 year old....lol, and btw, no offense taken by your post, your are an intelligent and thoughtful person and that's what this forum needs. More like you
 
you just wait till your little girl is a 16 year old....lol

I know, I know...I am NOT looking forward to it. Fortunately, I live in a rural high desert at the base of the mountains, and my daughter is currently into all things "outdoors", like her daddy. I figure if she can out-fish, out-climb, out-hunt, and out-drive all the boys around so she isn't easily impressed, we MIGHT be OK... :crazy02: :grin01:
 
Thank you for all your "long" and "kind" posts, Jazz your the only person i never said sorry to, lol that "ragards, Jazz,Whoops i mean george. :D " must have got annoying over time, well lol, damien is in his humid hide for the last two days not come out for water or anything what can i say, ill have a nice little shed soon!

PcS
 
LOL..............GOOD FOR YOU......We are a BIG outdoor family, and have our kids since they were about 2 out 'crawler' hunting for they're dad's spring fishing trips, have had em all fishing as soon as they could hold a pole..Just hoping George is able to overcome his previous obnoxious, rudeness and become a viable member of this community
 
Pet Corn Snake said:
Thank you for all your "long" and "kind" posts, Jazz your the only person i never said sorry to, lol that "ragards, Jazz,Whoops i mean george. :D " must have got annoying over time, well lol, damien is in his humid hide for the last two days not come out for water or anything what can i say, ill have a nice little shed soon!
Like I said before, you'd have to do a lot more than steal my signoff to annoy me - and that's not an invitation to try. :grin01:

That said, good luck on the "new beginning", and with Damien.

regards,
jazz
 
jazzgeek said:
CUT!

That's a wrap!

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Drama class is now over.

"It's jsut sankes", gang.

regards,
jazz


I agree to this very much.
And as the cowboy said once.. Come on guys...It's just a corn snake site.
Lets talk corns and end this.
 
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