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Is it ok to house two snakes together?

Is it ok to house 2 corns together?

  • Only if they arent both males

    Votes: 9 4.9%

  • Yes! never had a problem

    Votes: 41 22.5%

  • No! I've had problems

    Votes: 84 46.2%

  • Depends on the "personality" of the snakes

    Votes: 48 26.4%
  • Total voters
    182
I give up

you give them more credit then you should.
you are comparing them to humans, dogs and cats.
It just doesn't work.
believe what you want. I'm tired of arguing about it.
 
i dont see why they shouldnt be compared to cats and dogs...what is so different about their behavior? i can understand dogs in one way, but logicly they are about the same. you can train a dog, but only because a dog has a willingness to be trained. a cat cant be trained, atleate not nearly as well as any dog. a cat lays around and rests most of the day until it wants to adventure around and eat...a snake does the same. a cat will go where it wants to, so will a snake. a cat may come to you when you call its name with the offer of food and/or petting, a snake cannot hear...atleaste not well...therefore it cannot hear your calls for it to come to you...and as far as being compared to humans...humans are animals, and people forget that...we have the same basic inteligence as any animal and the same reations to similar situations. put a human in the wild, lost, with no chance of survival and they will still try...basic instint takes over and they try to survive where logic has told them that they are going to die. an animal will do the same thing. stop thinking we are some super beingings...we are not...we are but animals
 
your right.... we are animals... meat eating animals and you can bet that if 2 ppl are stuck somewhere and there is nothing else to eat, that atleast one of them is going to disapear. Yes, its abit extreme but from the snakes point of view? this is what will happen... not always but it does happen.
 
LeeC said:
how can you know for sure? do your snakes talk to you? I think just because for the most part they're solitary creatures, doesnt mean that they dont get lonely. We as humans will never know. I like to think that they do get lonely, so I house my 2 together, and If they start not getting along ill seperate them.
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He doesn't have to know for sure. You're the one claiming something we can't know for sure, I'd like to hear you back up your claim. His position (if I may be so bold..) is that if we can't know, it's a risk not worth taking- And I think he and many others of us would add to that position with several other dangers that we can and DO know of.

I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp for people- Is it a general cheapness in regards to buying another tank? Or are some of us really trying this hard to push these emotional attachments onto their snakes?
 
Jimmy Johnson said:
How can I argue with this brilliance
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oh no! sorry for mistakes made by somone who wakes up at 4 am and goes to work, and dosent get home until around 4:30 pm...then is further busy until around 12...so forgive me for being a tad tired and could care less about a few minor mistakes here and there...if you have to try and pull backing from something as simple as mistakes in gramer then i think you need to just give up, either argue what is said, or give up, dont nit pick...
 
may i also add that it should be kept in mind that i am not either for or against the cohab topic, my argument is simply that some people here do not give enough credit to animals, mainly snakes.
 
it's not the grammer
it's the idea that all animals are equal.
simply wrong.
snakes DO NOT have the brain capacity of cats and dogs.
cats and dogs DO NOT have the brain capacity of humans.

these are simple facts
 
If you let your kid outside he or she will come back to the house . The same can be said about cats and dogs. Now I ask this, if snakes are equal to humans ,cats and dogs how come if they get out of there cage they never come back? If your snakes are so smart then take the lid off your cage and see if they stick around. By your reasoning to could just sit down to watch some T.V. and your snake would just come out of its cage and want to be held then when it's done it would go back to the cage. Right? :rolleyes:
 
thats just a simple differance in their mind set. cats and dogs see their owners as the providers...snakes on the other hand, like many reptiles, are very independant, therefor they do not feel the urge to return to their to be provided for. that dosent show a lacking on the snakes part, just a more solid, deeply driven independance
 
infact, here is the perfect case and point. how many reptiles care for their young once their young are born? how many mamals care for their young once they are born? its really quite simple. there should just be more thought into these situations before mentioning them...you cant just look at them from one angle and expect to see everything...
 
The only time...

I house snakes together, if they are all holdback females that I have hatched out. I usually group them in 3's or 4's and they have always seemed to thrive this way. I have a few of my females from last year (all around 30") in a huge 3ft. home made cage and have several hides for them. They always seem to be under the same hide (as if they like hanging out togeter). Some may think that it's due to the best temp. in the cage, but my room is all the same temp., so it can't be that. I have noticed some female get stressed out when housed with any other snake however, and do believe that they all have different personalities. I would never reccomend keeping snakes together that have come from different sources in case one has something wrong with it. When they become breeding size, all of my snakes are in their own cage and the males are always housed alone until mating season. Again anything I put togeter is young females and all hatched by me, and of course you always run a slight risk of canibalism, which I have never seen yet.
 
Jimmy is right. It is hard to argue with you. If they are so independent then why would you choose to hold them captive in a little cage that there independence clearly does not like? A snake does not know you from the man on the moon and it surely does not know or want another snake in its cage. Let all your snakes out and see if they follow each other around your house or if they go there own way.
 
Cannibalism is the best reason not to keep them together. Period the end. If you love your snakes why would you want one to eat the other they have it die from eating to big a meal. If you want snakes to die just bash there heads together and get it over with.
 
dr73 said:
Jimmy is right. It is hard to argue with you. If they are so independent then why would you choose to hold them captive in a little cage that there independence clearly does not like? A snake does not know you from the man on the moon and it surely does not know or want another snake in its cage. Let all your snakes out and see if they follow each other around your house or if they go there own way.
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honestly, its quite apparent that they dont like, hint the "normal" behavior of trying to escape from the tank...and i think there are many people who could vouch differently weither or not a snake can tell one person from another. as for letting them roam around and see which goes where...who knows, some may folow others and some may go their own way...its all up to where they feel like going...same goes for kids...since you wanted to bring them up...if you put siblings together who normaly get along on a playground, im sure they will go play together for a while, but if you put lots of things around them that would intrest each differently then im sure they would go their own ways and seek out and explore what they want.
 
:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: I quiet Do what you want and if your snake end up dead do not say we did not tell you what could happen.
 
Annihilation- said:
how so quit? as i have said before. my debate dosent directly involve cohab, its about the intelligence of snakes.
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Then you're not just off-base, you're off-topic as well. This isn't against the rules, but maybe you should start another thread presenting your naive notions for discussion. Maybe you could educate yourself on comparative anatomy, particularly animal brains and brain function, then move on to some behavioral studies before starting that thread. Comparing a solitary animal like a snake to social animals such as dogs and humans exposes a profound lack of understanding of these themes on your part. I have some education in these areas, and I have experience with all of the animals that have been discussed. Jimmy is right, and you are wrong. Sorry...

And don't blame us if you present your touchy-feely, unsubstantiated views in a confused manner while you're suffering from fatigue. That's all on you.

On the experience side, I've kept hundreds of snakes, known dozens of cats and dogs, and I've known many, many humans. How many snakes have you kept? You don't find much better examples of creatures of pure instinct than snakes.
 
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