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**Leopard Gecko** !Morph Help!

Random8A

Random8A

Cornaholic
Hey guys,
We went to the MD Expo today, and picked up these very ill looking Leo females. Their morphs were unknown?? Does anyone know what these two are?

Thanks!!
And any info for weight gain/hydration/TLC advice would be appricated!
FIRST FEMALE ( BELOW )
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g?t=1200175877

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g?t=1200176277



SECOND FEMALE ( BELOW )
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g?t=1200176012

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...g?t=1200176165
 
Sorry, correction!

First Female
NewLeos112004.jpg


NewLeos112006.jpg



Second Female

NewLeos112001.jpg


NewLeos112002.jpg
 
I can't tell you the morphs, I had a leo for about two weeks. I was told to feed mealie worms dusted with vits and calcium powder. Some of the things I learned some are poor eaters, until they get settled in surroundings. They actually eat their shed, I thought mine was chewing his leg off. I hated the disgusting worms, so he was rehomed to a local breeder. There is a gecko forum which was very helpful to me, sorry I can't find the link. susang
 
Random8A said:
Hey guys,
We went to the MD Expo today, and picked up these very ill looking Leo females. Their morphs were unknown?? Does anyone know what these two are?

Thanks!!
And any info for weight gain/hydration/TLC advice would be appricated!
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Amanda,
I am not trying to start a flame war but Why did you buy animals in this condition?? You could've bought animals in far better health than risk your collection of herps at home by bringing home an illness.

Yes, this animal is so under weight and thin. I would hydrate them by placing in a tupperware container filled with Damp Moss. Cut a nice hole out of the top and use this as a hide. The animal will get moisture this way as well. Keep plenty of water in the cage and I would start feeding them WAX Worms every day. Waxies are very fatty and should bring up their body reserves pretty fast. I would pick up some Vitamins and dust the food as well. I am sure these animals may have MBD as well, or at least a mild form of it.

I am glad I wasn't at the show I would have Bitch slapped the person selling these animals or atleast reported them. A gecko at that age and size should have a tail as wide as your thumb.
 
Also, keep them in newspaper substrate and keep them separated from each other. I would also keep them away from your other herps, different room.

Keeping them in separated enclosures will ensure the both get to eat and not just one. they will stress each other out. I keep leopard Geckos here and have so for years and all 10 of them are in different cages until breeding.

And remember this before you handle any other animals, wash your hands or use hand sanitizer. Again, these animals may be infected with something as well. You do not need to bring that to your Pythons and other reptiles.

If I sound a little harsh here is because I am trying to protect your other collection. Sick, unhealthy animals in your house can cause major problems for your other pets. And 20 dollars worth of sick geckos you felt sorry for isnt worth the money and time you spent keeping your other animals healthy.
 
I 100% agree. The condition of those geckos is appauling. I would have not paid a penny for them. I understand you probably wanted to help, but in paying for them you have only encouraged the seller to continue to treat his animals badly.

Those are severly underweight and dehydrated. Get some fatty foods into them asap (ie pheonix worms, waxies) if you can... they may not want to eat. You need to dust the food with more calcium than usual. A leos tail is all it's fat and calcium reserves. They will take a long time to gain back the weight I can assure you.
 
tricksterpup said:
Amanda,
I am not trying to start a flame war but Why did you buy animals in this condition?? You could've bought animals in far better health than risk your collection of herps at home by bringing home an illness.

Yes, this animal is so under weight and thin. I would hydrate them by placing in a tupperware container filled with Damp Moss. Cut a nice hole out of the top and use this as a hide. The animal will get moisture this way as well. Keep plenty of water in the cage and I would start feeding them WAX Worms every day. Waxies are very fatty and should bring up their body reserves pretty fast. I would pick up some Vitamins and dust the food as well. I am sure these animals may have MBD as well, or at least a mild form of it.

I am glad I wasn't at the show I would have Bitch slapped the person selling these animals or atleast reported them. A gecko at that age and size should have a tail as wide as your thumb.
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Yes, the two are in a totally different enclosure and a totally different room! We use gloves to handle these girls for now, until we are sure they are totally healthy!

Also, the woman at the show had said she got these two on a trade, it was SO terrible to see these animals in this condition. So I figure the 40 dollars spent would pay back so much more if we could nurse them back to health! Are are not in contact with each other or any other animals. They will go to the herp vet Monday! If I didnt have another room totally seprate from any other animals!
The tanks are to be wiped out and cleaned once a week, whatever they have ( whatever the vet diagnoses! ) hopefully we will nip it right in the butt, and start putting weight back on! I weighed them both, and keeping weekly records!

Anyway Thank you very much for your advice!
 
Random8A said:
Yes, the two are in a totally different enclosure and a totally different room! We use gloves to handle these girls for now, until we are sure they are totally healthy!

Also, the woman at the show had said she got these two on a trade, it was SO terrible to see these animals in this condition. So I figure the 40 dollars spent would pay back so much more if we could nurse them back to health! Are are not in contact with each other or any other animals. They will go to the herp vet Monday! If I didnt have another room totally seprate from any other animals!
The tanks are to be wiped out and cleaned once a week, whatever they have ( whatever the vet diagnoses! ) hopefully we will nip it right in the butt, and start putting weight back on! I weighed them both, and keeping weekly records!

Anyway Thank you very much for your advice!
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I hope you realize the vet bill will probably be around $200 for them to check out these animals.
 
We expect it to be!
I have a Reptile Savings going! Thank you for all the advice, I'm going to snap a few better pictures of her for everyone :D
 
Also, do you guys mean a Normal like a Normal Normal. Or not really sure what you mean?
I will discribe her, her back ground is Solid white, with a slight yellow tinge, and chocolate spots on her head and back! :)
Thans.
 
Oh dang those are some skinny Leos! :( I concur with all the advice given, pump them full of waxies and Phoenix worms. I also have a good slurry recipe written down somewhere if you need it, if they don't eat on thier own, that is. Waxies usually do the trick though.
 
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