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Lucy lou My corn! :) help identifying?
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She looks like a nice bright amel to me.
RainbowMary
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hey. if im not mistaken she's a beautiful amelanistic (not sure if spelt correctly) but I am learning so I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm not, and by the sounds of it is shes gone a dull colour and she hasn't been feeding then don't worry she is just in "blue" but yet again people feel free to correct me, my knowledge and experience isn't great enough to give certain answers, hope I could help 
P.s VERY pretty
P.s VERY pretty
SteffieKent
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thanks! the owner before me rescued her! she has a few small dark looking scars on her inderside in places. shes quite jumpy but i do love her!
shes bright in these - flash on cam maybe - top of her head looks bit milky over last few days and she looks like she has a flake of dry skin just under her mouth so hoping shell shed - guy before hadnt had one in a while! cheers for help guys! appreciate lots of people opinions ! xxxxx
shes bright in these - flash on cam maybe - top of her head looks bit milky over last few days and she looks like she has a flake of dry skin just under her mouth so hoping shell shed - guy before hadnt had one in a while! cheers for help guys! appreciate lots of people opinions !
xxxxx
SteffieKent
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she came to me having previously been eating large f/t 1-2 a week with her previous owner.
ive tried several. leaving to thaw naturally, leaving to thaw in cool water for a few hours then warming the head slightly with warmer water.
theres an orange vitamin supplement on one side of the viv where she has always fed from with previous owner. i dropped the f/t on the orange stuff so she gets some with food followed by 2dance of the dead rodent" with feeding tongs. ive had it right up to her nose and shes just turned the other way and sat in her water bowl, in her hide, climbed up her log - anything but eat. ive tried dancing it around a bit followed by placing it on her fav rock. ive then left the room for a bit so she doesnt think i may be after her food.
ive even gone as far as putting one in about 8pm and leaving her till early am next day but still no luck!
for first two weeks though she was very jumpy ( in past she was badly treated somewhere along the line). now she has slightly settled down and its coming out to play lots, climbing lots and exploring. i was hoping by burning the calories she wouldnt have turned down her last meal but she did. that was on monday. am currently defrosting naturally again and will try feeding early am tomorrow.
anything else i could do. the f/t im trying her on last time and the one tomorrow are next size down - back to a mediumish size as opposed to large.
ive tried several. leaving to thaw naturally, leaving to thaw in cool water for a few hours then warming the head slightly with warmer water.
theres an orange vitamin supplement on one side of the viv where she has always fed from with previous owner. i dropped the f/t on the orange stuff so she gets some with food followed by 2dance of the dead rodent" with feeding tongs. ive had it right up to her nose and shes just turned the other way and sat in her water bowl, in her hide, climbed up her log - anything but eat. ive tried dancing it around a bit followed by placing it on her fav rock. ive then left the room for a bit so she doesnt think i may be after her food.
ive even gone as far as putting one in about 8pm and leaving her till early am next day but still no luck!
for first two weeks though she was very jumpy ( in past she was badly treated somewhere along the line). now she has slightly settled down and its coming out to play lots, climbing lots and exploring. i was hoping by burning the calories she wouldnt have turned down her last meal but she did. that was on monday. am currently defrosting naturally again and will try feeding early am tomorrow.anything else i could do. the f/t im trying her on last time and the one tomorrow are next size down - back to a mediumish size as opposed to large.
SnakesRule1234
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She might be an only live feeder... try that.
SteffieKent
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hmm previous owner never fed her live :S does this matter? she doesnt even seem to coil back into an "s" shape. no signs of wanting to go for food. she even slithers all over it rather than eat it.
Cat_Eyed_Lady
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You may wish to try thawing in a baggie in hot water instead of 'naturally' or in cool water. Maybe its just not hot enough for her? Put the mouse in a baggie and then in a glass of Hot water (with another glass of hot water on top to make sure it thaws all the way) for about 10 minutes.... empty that water and put in fresh hot water for another 10 minutes.... feel to make sure the mouse feels really warm to you and soft everywhere... then offer that to her It might work
It might work 
Susielea
Lily
Has she previously been bred, do you know? If that is possible, could she be gravid? She does look quite plump, so if she hasn't been with a male, she could be ovulating and I've got two girls here that refused a couple of meals around ovulation, although they're back feeding now.
I'll agree with beckers71 and Cat Eyed Lady, you really want to be offering a very warm mouse. I defrost mine in hot water, then I top up the hot water, leave for another few minutes until the mouse is very warm/hot and then offer it to the snake.
Best wishes,
I'll agree with beckers71 and Cat Eyed Lady, you really want to be offering a very warm mouse. I defrost mine in hot water, then I top up the hot water, leave for another few minutes until the mouse is very warm/hot and then offer it to the snake.
Best wishes,
SteffieKent
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thanks for the help everyone!!:crazy02:
well i finally got in contact with prevous owner who said he never had her probed himself and was told she was female by previous owner! im gunna go for finidng someone to check the sex for me. i would try doing it myself but shes quite jumpy and id rather she got angry with someone who doesnt handle her everyday ( selfish on my part i no lol)
ive tried the hot water method and topped water up over and over again to ensure warm all way through! she didnt take.
today thought she is incredibly hyper, even burrowed under her water bowl sending it over so now having to clean entire tank as all wood chips are soaked and orange vitamin powder has turned to a lovely orange goo! LOL
she does look like she has a spec of dry skin hanging off under her mouth so am going to try a warm soak and some shedding aid spray and see what happens!
whats the best way to give a snake bath - ive never had to do it!
THANKS AGAIN GUYS!!!!!! :dancer:
well i finally got in contact with prevous owner who said he never had her probed himself and was told she was female by previous owner! im gunna go for finidng someone to check the sex for me. i would try doing it myself but shes quite jumpy and id rather she got angry with someone who doesnt handle her everyday ( selfish on my part i no lol)
ive tried the hot water method and topped water up over and over again to ensure warm all way through! she didnt take.
today thought she is incredibly hyper, even burrowed under her water bowl sending it over so now having to clean entire tank as all wood chips are soaked and orange vitamin powder has turned to a lovely orange goo! LOL
she does look like she has a spec of dry skin hanging off under her mouth so am going to try a warm soak and some shedding aid spray and see what happens!
whats the best way to give a snake bath - ive never had to do it!
THANKS AGAIN GUYS!!!!!! :dancer:
SteffieKent
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thanks velvet - i have been wondering. very hyper, constantly at fromt of tank looking for ways out, doesnt seem to spend any time sleeping - always up and about, climbing everywhere, and refusing food - was definately starting to think she was male.
poor lucy shes going to have such a complex!
will have to call her lucifer if shes male!
poor lucy shes going to have such a complex!
will have to call her lucifer if shes male!
bitsy
Owned by Corns since 1991
Put a humid hide in with her and let her make her own way in. Should help with the shedding and if she's restless due to ovulation/carrying eggs, then the hide will help with that as well.
I wouldn't use the vitamin supplement any more. She probably needed it when rescued, but she looks healthy and hearty now.
I wouldn't use the vitamin supplement any more. She probably needed it when rescued, but she looks healthy and hearty now.
bekers71
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today thought she is incredibly hyper, even burrowed under her water bowl sending it over so now having to clean entire tank as all wood chips are soaked and orange vitamin powder has turned to a lovely orange goo! LOL
THANkS AGAIN GUYS!!!!!! :dancer:
With this behavior it almost makes me think she is a gravid female looking for a lay box or a very active male looking for a mate. I would put a hide with some damp paper towels, like Bitsy suggested, in the cage just in case.
cka
memba
SnakesRule1234 said:
Don't think thats an option in the UK...The few ovulating corns I've had have never gone off feed til right before it's time to lay, and your snake doesnt look like it's carrying eggs, but it's possible, if it's a female and was kept together with a male...It sounds like a male feeling spring, or it could just be settling in and a bit stressed :shrugs:..
bitsy
Owned by Corns since 1991
OT (sorry) - Theoretically live feeding is legal in the UK, but only if it's the last resort and the snake would starve to death without. The principle hasn't actually been tested in court yet, so there's no way of knowing if a prosecution would succeed or fail.
Back on topic....
I don't think starvation is an immediate risk for this strapping wench - she seems to be in very good condition from that photo. Kudos to the rescuer and new owner.
SteffieKent
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cheers guys - she comes out to play daily and you cant feel any eggs, and shes not getting heavier! ill try a more humid hide! unfotunately i have to move her to my new house tomorrow so shes gunna get all unsettled again! i was gunna use the opportunity to re-arrange her viv too and put a few more bits in!
i brought a cheapo humidity guage today as it always feels quite dry so will def put some wet paper towels in ASAP and see if i can find an old shoe box or something for a temp new humid hide. she tends to always either be under the water bowl or under her climbing log which is covered with leaves though.
thanks for all the help will let you no when she feeds. gunna leave it now until next week on the thurs i think. that will be just over 4 weeks with no food so hopefully shell be hungry then. she refused the one i gave her yesterday and sat on it instead :S
i brought a cheapo humidity guage today as it always feels quite dry so will def put some wet paper towels in ASAP and see if i can find an old shoe box or something for a temp new humid hide. she tends to always either be under the water bowl or under her climbing log which is covered with leaves though.
thanks for all the help
will let you no when she feeds. gunna leave it now until next week on the thurs i think. that will be just over 4 weeks with no food so hopefully shell be hungry then. she refused the one i gave her yesterday and sat on it instead :SIt looks like folks have given you some advice ... &/or suggestions as to why your snake may not be eating.
I would have suggested not doing the natural warming but, rather, thawing it out in warm water. Then, making sure the entire mouse was pretty warm prior to feeding ... or to try smaller prey item/s ... or to try washing the prey item (with just a drop, or two, of something like Ivory soap and rinsing very well) ... or to try live.
I have an almost two yr. old female who had never been fed live but, suddenly, she will only accept live these days (was a last resort after all else failed). Hope is to convert her back to f/t.
If your snake is, actually, a male ... then, yes, he could just have "spring fever" and has other things, on his mind, than food.
Don't know if she may be gravid but, yes, a female snake can go off her food well before laying eggs (if she were gravid). As an example: I have a female who will lay eggs (or slugs), each year (even without having been bred), and she goes off her feed for one month, or a bit more, prior to laying. She, also, gets very active (of course) just prior to laying.
This is, however, not the only cause for a female to become very active. I have "another female or two" (confirmed female/s) who, also, become/s very active (more than usual), around this time, without being gravid.
Another factor could be viv temperatures. If the temps are not appropriate, it could make a snake go off their feed.
I would have suggested not doing the natural warming but, rather, thawing it out in warm water. Then, making sure the entire mouse was pretty warm prior to feeding ... or to try smaller prey item/s ... or to try washing the prey item (with just a drop, or two, of something like Ivory soap and rinsing very well) ... or to try live.
I have an almost two yr. old female who had never been fed live but, suddenly, she will only accept live these days (was a last resort after all else failed). Hope is to convert her back to f/t.
If your snake is, actually, a male ... then, yes, he could just have "spring fever" and has other things, on his mind, than food.
Don't know if she may be gravid but, yes, a female snake can go off her food well before laying eggs (if she were gravid). As an example: I have a female who will lay eggs (or slugs), each year (even without having been bred), and she goes off her feed for one month, or a bit more, prior to laying. She, also, gets very active (of course) just prior to laying.
This is, however, not the only cause for a female to become very active. I have "another female or two" (confirmed female/s) who, also, become/s very active (more than usual), around this time, without being gravid.
Another factor could be viv temperatures. If the temps are not appropriate, it could make a snake go off their feed.