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Midget Housetraining

Hypancistrus

New member
Well, you all know Tara and I recently brought home a tiny chihuahua puppy. He is 5 pounds now and 4 months old and housetraining is not going so well. We are attempting to pad train him so that while we work, he doesn't have to rely on a pea sized bladder to make it through the day. He will go on the pads maybe 75% of the time... that's a generous estimate... but the rest of the time he goes on the rug... on the hardwood floor upstairs... on the kitchen floor.

He will not use the pad if we take him to it and say "potty" even if he is circling. He runs off the pad. He will go outside in the grass with the big dogs but does not go to the door like he wants to go out.

Are we doing something wrong?? I am kind of getting tired of cleaning up tiny puddles and shampooing the carpets.
 
Maybe you should get this?

https://www.pottypatch.com/

Just a thought. :shrugs:

It's been so long since I had to house break a dog. One thing I know is that whenever we cleaned up, we would move the "stuff" to the area we wanted the dog to go and constantly bring the dog back to that spot. It was many trips outside, even when they weren't asking.

When we weren't home, our dogs were crated. Being crated, they were less likely to go, because it's where they sleep.

Wayne
 
Are we doing something wrong??


I think that what you are doing isn't wrong but he is still just learning. He should never have the opportunity to pee where he shouldn't until he is housetrained. The pads are an ok idea but you need to build him a little corral so he can't wander all over the house. Each time he pees on the floor, he being a dog will be able to detect that scent even if you clean it, and so will go there again.

Crate training is the way to go, but such a tiny young dog is not going to be able to hold it so the pads inside a corral would be the next best thing. Unless you can have someone come over and let him out once or twice a day.
I have 2 chis, the larger one is housebroken, the little 5 lb one with her tiny bladder still has the occasional accident, I think critters that small need to go more aften..

Good luck!!!
 
The pads are an ok idea but you need to build him a little corral so he can't wander all over the house. Each time he pees on the floor, he being a dog will be able to detect that scent even if you clean it, and so will go there again.

We do have a pen for him for when we can't watch him. It's one of those portable baby cribs. We have a bed in it, a food and water dish (he eats breakfast in their most weekdays) and the 2nd half of it is all pad.

The problem is... when we are home and we put him in there he barks and barks and barks. I am concerned about our neighbors all the time with regards to that. I don't need law enforcement banging our door.

Do you think it would help to have more pads down?
 
The tiny breeds, like chihuahuas, take longer to house train than larger breeds. At 4 months, he still has time to get the idea. I personally hate the idea of the pads or any other item that lets your dog think that eliminating in the house is okay. I really don't think they can easily grasp the idea that the pads are okay but the rug is not. They need to learn that outside is the place to go and that they must tell you when they need to go out. Use the natural reflex of "eat then eliminate" to help in your training. Don't "free-feed" while training, including access to water. And if you know you're going to have to leave him in the crate/pen while you go out, dramatically limit any food and water your dog has access to during that time. Give a toy or a chew to occupy his mind while you're gone, a few bits of kibble and an ice cube or two. If he fills up early, he'll need to go potty soon and he'll have an accident.

I'm a firm believer in crate training. Dogs need a place they can go when you need to limit their access to the rest of the house (when you're not there or when there are people over) but to also go when they feel the need to get away and be by themselves. For a small chihuahua, the crate needs to be small enough so that they aren't tempted to eliminate in it, but large enough where they can be comfortable but secure.

Positive reinforcement is the best way to train a dog to do anything. Work starting with small steps, lavishing the praise ONLY when they do something correct. Negative reinforcement only works when you catch them in the act. Never hit, but a firm "NO!" should be used followed by either ignoring him or telling him what the proper behavior is. Learn the difference between attention-seeking behavior (purposefully misbehaving) and actual mistakes in behavior due to ignorance. If you do ANYTHING to your dog when he's barking in his crate or pen, you are supplying positive reinforcement for that improper behavior. You must learn to ignore him until he becomes quiet and behaves, THEN give him the attention he wants.

You are the boss and he must not only learn what to do and what not to do from you, but also that you will remain the boss and he will always be the low member of the pack. An obedience class for puppies will help you a great deal, as well as adult classes when the time comes. And don't forget to socialize your pup with not only other animals but with other people and different places. You don't want to create one of those "pocket-piranha" Chihuahuas that everybody hates.
 
Susan, I agree with you on dogs eliminating in the house. The problem is that we both work full time, and my understanding (even the book on chi's that I purchased) is that their bladder is too tiny even to go from 8:00 until 11:00 AM, when I can come home for lunch, let alone 8:00 AM until 2:30 PM on those days where I just cannot get home.

If this is NOT correct and his bladder COULD last that long, I for one would love to be done with the puppy pads.... I have a small plastic crate he could be in for that time.
 
Their bladder is too tiny? Why would their bladders be any different from any other small dog? A tiny dog is only going to make a small amount of urine and age has more to do with it than anything, just like with boys. Yes, their ability to hold their bladder when young is not going to be like what a mature dog's will be, and Chihuahuas and Maltese seem to be the worst with this, but that's what you should expect whenever you get a puppy. That's one of the reasons why I have always gotten older dogs. I simply don't have the time home to train a puppy the proper way.

I see no reason why your Chihuahua, at 4 months old, can't hold his bladder for 3 hours. That isn't long at all. The 6-7 hour wait at this age is probably too long, but that will improve over the next couple of months. If you're giving him a full meal and a full bowl of water just before leaving, THAT is the reason for him not being able to wait. If you leave at 8AM, he needs to be fed and watered at 6AM to give him plenty of time to do his business where he is supposed to. He shouldn't need any food (1-2 treats/chews or equivalent to occupy him is okay) and only 1-2 ice cubes while you're gone. You can give him a light snack during lunch and 1-2 more ice cubes just before you go back to work, then give him his full second meal and a full bowl of water after you're home for the night. Give the crate and early feeding/watering a try, with a pad in the back corner only if he's not done a good "pee 'n poop" within an hour of you leaving, and see what happens. He may make a mistake at first, but he won't like being in the small crate if it's messy and will quickly learn that if he does his business when given the chance, he won't have to go until you come home and give him another chance. It's just going to have to take a little time to re-train his bodily functions.
 
I have house trained all our dogs using crate training, feeding/water schedule, and scheduled potty time. Basically we take our pups out every hour on the hour the same time each day- if we are not here they go to the crate end of story. They eat at the same time everyday which helps them regulate when its time to go. I don't believe in the pads because like Susan said they can't tell a pad from the carpet, your floor, or any other area- it reinforces I pee inside which is not what you want at all. Because you work you'll have to use the crate even with the barking. Prewarn your neighbors for the first week they bark a lot unfortunately so ask for temporary patience,lol Crate training means the dog will actually like the crate if you do it right. Don;t just lock him up and go instead make it fun. Leave the door open and coax him in with a treat, then lots of praise and call him out. Repeat several times for a few days. Always leave the door open with treats in there so he wants to go in and when the day comes you must actually close the door be ready for some whining but don't reprimand him for it just go. After a week or so you'll notice he'll go in there to sleep, play, chew his toys, and so on.

Never leave him with food or water for long periods or he'll pee poo (they can go many hours without), take him out first thing in the morning, right when you get home, and every hour you are home. Take treats out with you and say go potty, go potty, go potty- you get the idea and when he does give him the treat and act like he just pooped gold with lots of praise. If you stay on him he will housebreak soon it took my small dog only a month to get it and at 5 lbs. she could hold it 6 hours just be patient and don't yell- small dogs for some reason love to peeve their owners when they yell at them,lol he'll start to do it on purpose:)
 
Okay, I am going to talk to Tara about trying traditional crate training. I've been making it home reliably each lunch period, even on B days when I only have half an hour... (I cut it really close those days-- the teenagers are waiting in the hallway when I get back-- eek!)
 
My Husband and I have a Pom/Chi cross, and we were told by a popular trainer that they should be able to hold their bladder 1 hour for each month old they are. Something you may want to try is a small litter box with wooden pellets instead of cat litter (mine eats cat litter). As for the crate training, that is a great idea. Make sure that the crate is a safe place, not a place that he/she is put when he is being punished.

You've gotten a lot of great advice :) Hope it helps
 
What about overnight? Will he be able to make it or will I have to take him out overnight?

Just like with children, pulling an "all-nighter" is just too much to ask right now, but by the time he's an adult, he should be able to handle it. Just don't end up like my mother, and let the dog train you to get up at 3AM to let it out just to stand there for a bit, bark once or twice, then come in for a treat. She has herself convinced that the dog will go in the house if she doesn't let it out at that time. Over the years, she's made that her permanent schedule...up at 3AM and in bed at 7PM "because of the dogs" and complain about it on a daily basis. Yeah...right. Guaranteed her newest dog wasn't on that schedule when she got it and then wondered why the heck my Mom got her up at 3AM to go out when she didn't need to go.
 
I took our GSD/ lab/and mut out every night too- kinda like having a baby,lol- but it gets better. Make the crate a fun place, follow the dog around or even tether the dog to you when your both home and go out hourly during your awake hours. Stay out until he goes, treat, praise, and back in- they get the idea relatively fast. At night try every 4 hours and then wean back as he improves. There are a ton of great sites dedicated to crate training and potty training- the key is setting YOUR schedule and sticking to it- if you slack they pee,lol Remember the food schedule also because then he'll start to go at the same time daily and make your life a little easier. Motherhood,lol
 
I dont recomend doing Pad training personally. as it is confusing to the dog.. as it isnt allowed to potty in the house.. except this one spot. And the dogs that learn to use the pad.. have a hard time learning to go outside. Just crate train him..and teach him to go outside. Hang a HUGE Bell from the door he goes out. And have him ring the bell before you take him out... With his nose or paw.. and say "GO OUTSIDE" Or "Potty" or whatever ure word is..And then take him outside.. Use LOTS of Praise when Outside where it is Sooo Happy and High Pitched.. u think neighbors will look at you funny! lol ;) And a rule of thumb is.. for every month old they are.. is a hr they are able to hold it. So, if he is 4 mo old.. he can hold it generally 4 hrs. But he is tiny.. so I would say every 3 hrs.
When you feed him.. Dont free feed.. Feed on a scheduale. The SAME Scheduale Each time. Same times. Start at 4times a day till he is about 6 mo.. then go to 3 times a day and at a yr.. go to 2 times a day. As soon as he is done eating.. take him outside. wait for him to potty. If he doesn't potty.. Put him in his crate. If he does.. he gets play time in the house. In a cpl hrs.. take him out again. Rinse and repeat. He is Super young..and small.. Don't give him free roam of the house.. it is WAY Too much space at that age. Use baby Gates to block off living room.. bedroom ... or where ever you all are. And keep him in there. Tether him to you with a leash. So, you are always with him and know where he is. And if u see him circling.. take him straight out.

I am sure I have missed some.. I will prolly re read and ad more. LOL! But this is a good start.. I am not sure what U have tried of this. But I would Defently Crate train him!
 
Well we have been crating him for the past day. I was astonished because he went all last night and yesterday in the crate with no accidents AND he slept straight through the night. Great!
 
That's fantastic! I knew he would be able to be a good dog, and am very pleased to hear he went so long without an accident already! Be prepared for him to still have the occasional accident as those things happen, but you can at least breath a sigh of relief now.
 
Just got a new puppy (shelter mutts for life!!!) and she's also 4 months old. House training is spotty with her as well because she seems to know already not to go in the house, but she doesn't know how to ask to go out yet and she hasn't figured out the doggy door just yet. The only advice I can give is, rather than scold him for going in the house, praise him repeatedly for going outside or on the pad.
 
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