So i've already gotten one opinion on here that seems dead on, but it never hurts to get more. Here are pictures of all my corns, with the hatchlings up first. Any help that you all can offer on the morphs would be greatly appreciated. In order of the pictures, i believe them to be amel, snow, butter motley, lavender motley(??? still not at all sure about that one), and normal stripe (?).
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Morph ID quiz! (and just help me figure all these guys out)
- Thread starter SJLilly
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Crazy Colubrids
So Addicted
Amel
Snow
Butter/Caramel Motley
Lavender Motley
Normal Stripe
Hypo
Ghost Stripe
Normal
Snow
Butter/Caramel Motley
Lavender Motley
Normal Stripe
Hypo
Ghost Stripe
Normal
Susan
Go Ahead, Make My Day!
Amel
Snow
Butter Motley
Lavender motley/hypo lavender motley
Normal Stripe
Hypo (color doesn't strike me as being quite right for a lava)
Ghost stripe
Normal (could be locality from Miami are, but without knowing for a fact that is where it came from, and since it doesn't have the Miami phase look, I wouldn't call it a Mami. However, I would like to see the belly as it does look more like a Keys corn dorsally.)
Snow
Butter Motley
Lavender motley/hypo lavender motley
Normal Stripe
Hypo (color doesn't strike me as being quite right for a lava)
Ghost stripe
Normal (could be locality from Miami are, but without knowing for a fact that is where it came from, and since it doesn't have the Miami phase look, I wouldn't call it a Mami. However, I would like to see the belly as it does look more like a Keys corn dorsally.)
HoosierHerper
Josh
Does the Amel almost look RO to anyone else? Particularly towards the back half of the body? Other than that I agree with Susan 
HoosierHerper
Josh
Wow...that's an amazing RO! Ya it's not a definable on the OP's Amel, but still kinda looks like one
Thanks everyone. It's always a bit hard to tell, especially when they're just labeled as "fancy corns". I was told that the adult i've got was a Miami locality when i bought it, but you never know. I'll work on getting a picture of it's belly sometime this weekend. And i agree, definitely a very nice reverse okeetee Brad.
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
Can't make out alot of pertinent details in those pics, but does your alleged lava have ruby-red eyes along with very milky translucent blotch borders?. If not, then it is likely a nice typical hypo type "A" animal.
Also, what do you specifically know about the alleged locality "Miami"?
It could easily be a wild-caught Miami, as they can have VERY considerable variation. I have seen many locality Miami's and they do not necessarily look anything like some of the selectively-bred one's do in the hobby. Some can, but many certainly do not.
It could very possibly be an extreme upper keys variant as Susan mentioned, or have originated anywhere else in the southern area of Miami/Dade County. They can be so variable it is ridiculous..LOL!
One also has to keep in mind that MANY locality Miami corns are not "Miami phase" animals either. The term was originally coined for these animals because of the specific gray background phenotype many display from that particular area. Many of them can look like classic corns, Okeetees, buckskins, or anything in between.
Here are just a few wild-caught locality-specific Miami's I have had in the past, as well as some others that were captured in extreme southern Miami/Dade near Everglades National Park that I have right now. Some of them are like night and day in comparison to one another.
I wish I had some photos of the killer locality Keys corn pair I had back in the early-mid 90's, they were true beauties!
This is a locality female "Miami" I had that was captured in Broward County which is the next county up from Miami/Dade.
And this is a locality-specific animal that was captured in Miami Dade that I got from Ben Seigel about 1995. This very unique specimen was hypermelanistic on it's entire gray ground color, but the crazy part was that it had EXTREME concentrations of melanin in several areas that were only on exactly HALF of its back!!. I wish I could have bred this animal before I got rid of it, because today there might have been some solid black corns with orange/red blotches, and even some extreme "high-white" amels as well as some other interesting morph combos. This thing was truly a "one-of-a-kind" animal, and I have never seen anything even come close to since then either.........argggh!
Here is a more of a "buckskin" phenotype that was captured next to Everglades National Park about as far south in Mainland Florida as you can get before going into the water..LOL!
An interesting pic of the yellowish belly it had.
A pic of a female captured just a 1/4 mile south of the one above that has a typical wild "Miami" phenotype.
another one captured in extremely close proximity to the one above.
And last, but not least, a very unique one-of-a-kind "Tessera" looking male specimen that was captured in the very next palm tree over from the "Miami" looking female. I hope to prove this animal's trait to be an inheritable trait next year.
thanks for looking,.........cheers!
~Doug
Also, what do you specifically know about the alleged locality "Miami"?
It could easily be a wild-caught Miami, as they can have VERY considerable variation. I have seen many locality Miami's and they do not necessarily look anything like some of the selectively-bred one's do in the hobby. Some can, but many certainly do not.
It could very possibly be an extreme upper keys variant as Susan mentioned, or have originated anywhere else in the southern area of Miami/Dade County. They can be so variable it is ridiculous..LOL!
One also has to keep in mind that MANY locality Miami corns are not "Miami phase" animals either. The term was originally coined for these animals because of the specific gray background phenotype many display from that particular area. Many of them can look like classic corns, Okeetees, buckskins, or anything in between.
Here are just a few wild-caught locality-specific Miami's I have had in the past, as well as some others that were captured in extreme southern Miami/Dade near Everglades National Park that I have right now. Some of them are like night and day in comparison to one another.
I wish I had some photos of the killer locality Keys corn pair I had back in the early-mid 90's, they were true beauties!
This is a locality female "Miami" I had that was captured in Broward County which is the next county up from Miami/Dade.
And this is a locality-specific animal that was captured in Miami Dade that I got from Ben Seigel about 1995. This very unique specimen was hypermelanistic on it's entire gray ground color, but the crazy part was that it had EXTREME concentrations of melanin in several areas that were only on exactly HALF of its back!!. I wish I could have bred this animal before I got rid of it, because today there might have been some solid black corns with orange/red blotches, and even some extreme "high-white" amels as well as some other interesting morph combos. This thing was truly a "one-of-a-kind" animal, and I have never seen anything even come close to since then either.........argggh!
Here is a more of a "buckskin" phenotype that was captured next to Everglades National Park about as far south in Mainland Florida as you can get before going into the water..LOL!
An interesting pic of the yellowish belly it had.
A pic of a female captured just a 1/4 mile south of the one above that has a typical wild "Miami" phenotype.
another one captured in extremely close proximity to the one above.
And last, but not least, a very unique one-of-a-kind "Tessera" looking male specimen that was captured in the very next palm tree over from the "Miami" looking female. I hope to prove this animal's trait to be an inheritable trait next year.
thanks for looking,.........cheers!
~Doug
DMong
colubrid connoisseur
I love your little oddball. He really does remind me a great deal of Nautley.
LOL!,.love the name Nautley!........thanks!,....yes, he sure does, I must say! :rofl:
~Doug