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Mouse identification :D Mouse geeks come in...
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CornCrazy
What's one more???
AWWW...aren't they cute! Hopefully the next litter will be better for you! I have a tank with about 25 or so babies in it! I can't wait until they all start growing hair so I can get a cute picture! My colonies had completely quit producing over the winter and I started all over again a few weeks ago. These are the first litters from my new colonies. I have almost all fancy mice now so I expect quite a bit of variety!
DdotSpot
The Snewbie
Ok this post is two-fold. First question for you Sash...Now here is a picture with the mom(black and white) and the other mom(fawn and white-which is also daughter to black and white mom, but diff dads). Is the little brown baby a totally different color than fawn? Or will it darken up and turn more orangey as it gets older?
Second question, anyone experts in mice parts? I know this picture is blurry, but can anyone tell if its a male or female? Both of the babies look identical underneath.
Second question, anyone experts in mice parts? I know this picture is blurry, but can anyone tell if its a male or female? Both of the babies look identical underneath.
Sasheena
Addicted
I think the baby will be a light gray/tan color just as it is as a baby...
As far as the genitalia of the little baby..... I think it's a male, but couldn't tell because it's a bit blurry... I emphasized the parts that made me t hink it's a male in the picture attached to this.... the little anus is colored black.... and there's a big space and then there's the "pokey thing" (both male babies and female babies have a pokey thing, males are ever-so-slightly bigger).... the pokey thing is quite removed from the anus.
On females there's only maybe half this distance. So they look like an upside down exclamation point... with the pokey thing almost connected to and touching the anus.
I have a page that talks about sexing mice.... http://www.geocities.com/mousedomousery/genders.html
As far as the genitalia of the little baby..... I think it's a male, but couldn't tell because it's a bit blurry... I emphasized the parts that made me t hink it's a male in the picture attached to this.... the little anus is colored black.... and there's a big space and then there's the "pokey thing" (both male babies and female babies have a pokey thing, males are ever-so-slightly bigger).... the pokey thing is quite removed from the anus.
On females there's only maybe half this distance. So they look like an upside down exclamation point... with the pokey thing almost connected to and touching the anus.
I have a page that talks about sexing mice.... http://www.geocities.com/mousedomousery/genders.html
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DdotSpot
The Snewbie
UPDATE...ok a few days ago Fawn mamma had 5 babies(Her first litter). and then I looked in there yesterday and I saw this.
I guess the black and white momma was also ready to have babies as well. So far, I THINK that the babies with the red arrows are from Fawn momma, but its getting really hard to tell. Can't wait till the fur comes in!
I guess the black and white momma was also ready to have babies as well. So far, I THINK that the babies with the red arrows are from Fawn momma, but its getting really hard to tell. Can't wait till the fur comes in!
DdotSpot
The Snewbie
Oh wow, I am SO SO happy with the crazy variety within these babies. Sasheena, I would love your expert opinion. My favorite is the dark silver one. But it seems like there's some 'hypo' type gene in there...
As you can see there is a Dark Grey mouse and a light grey(that white looking one I think is actually a very faint grey). There is a dark brown and a light brown(wild type?) There is a dark fawn and a light fawn. Is there hypo genes that work like this? I'm just really pleased....so strange that such a variety can be within this one batch.
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As you can see there is a Dark Grey mouse and a light grey(that white looking one I think is actually a very faint grey). There is a dark brown and a light brown(wild type?) There is a dark fawn and a light fawn. Is there hypo genes that work like this? I'm just really pleased....so strange that such a variety can be within this one batch.
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CornCrazy
What's one more???
Sasheena
Addicted
Okay, I've numbered them.
#1 and #2 are broken marked fawn mice
#3, and #9 and the baby yellow without a number are also fawn or brindle.
#4, #5, #6, and #7 appear to all be black mice...when the fur is still coming in it looks dark gray, but they look black to me.
#8 looks like a beautiful Dove/Lilac
#10 (if it has pink eyes) looks like it might be a broken marked silver or dove. Hard to say, cute though. Maybe chinchilla, but I'm not sure about that.
#11 might be broken marked black.
That's my "professional" diagnosis. The variable amount of yellow just depends on hundreds (or one or two?) of different modifier genes that help determine the shade of yellow. I have a lot of litters very similiar to this, with the yellows everywhere from the pale yellow to the burnt sienna. Also, yellow is only barely affected by certain dilution genes. In the presence of other dilution genes you can get a Black Eyed White mouse.
#1 and #2 are broken marked fawn mice
#3, and #9 and the baby yellow without a number are also fawn or brindle.
#4, #5, #6, and #7 appear to all be black mice...when the fur is still coming in it looks dark gray, but they look black to me.
#8 looks like a beautiful Dove/Lilac
#10 (if it has pink eyes) looks like it might be a broken marked silver or dove. Hard to say, cute though. Maybe chinchilla, but I'm not sure about that.
#11 might be broken marked black.
That's my "professional" diagnosis. The variable amount of yellow just depends on hundreds (or one or two?) of different modifier genes that help determine the shade of yellow. I have a lot of litters very similiar to this, with the yellows everywhere from the pale yellow to the burnt sienna. Also, yellow is only barely affected by certain dilution genes. In the presence of other dilution genes you can get a Black Eyed White mouse.
DdotSpot
The Snewbie
Well...HERE we go...batch #2...
This is 3 weeks later New babies from the same pairing...I did get more this time which is a plus!
There's one of the mama's poking her head in the picture.
I got a COUPLE of the Dove/Lilacs in this batch and even a
couple broken marked ones as well(of which I am pleased)
Now, I'm interested in what that chocolate looking one is
up there at the top squished underneath the blackie....
This one shows my FIRST Dove/Lilac girl from my other
breeding(#8 in post 35).
She is getting big and very helpful with the little ones.
This is 3 weeks later
New babies from the same pairing...I did get more this time which is a plus!There's one of the mama's poking her head in the picture.
I got a COUPLE of the Dove/Lilacs in this batch and even a
couple broken marked ones as well(of which I am pleased)
Now, I'm interested in what that chocolate looking one is
up there at the top squished underneath the blackie....
This one shows my FIRST Dove/Lilac girl from my other
breeding(#8 in post 35).
She is getting big and very helpful with the little ones.
