well, the pinkie had been digested for several days, judgeing by I could barely make out what it was. It was a whole, day old pinkie as far as I can tell. So i'll probably try some live day old pinkies. I'm sure it was the rough interstate that caused the regurge, but who knows. I did as best I could picking out a baby w/ the thickest borders. I may be wrong but I think it was exotics by nature, I didnt really pay attention to the breeders name, It appears to be in excellent conditions, very bright so far. I'll keep you posted. thanks for your quick reply!