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SnakeLuvrs

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I am in south florida... (I am going to buy a heat lamp today) will the little guy be okay for the day? I have to go out with my family right after I stop off to get the lamp. We had him in a warm spot while he was in his deli cup when we bought him... now he has a tank but no lamp... I think the inside temp is 76...
 
SnakeLuvrs said:
I am in south florida... (I am going to buy a heat lamp today) will the little guy be okay for the day? I have to go out with my family right after I stop off to get the lamp. We had him in a warm spot while he was in his deli cup when we bought him... now he has a tank but no lamp... I think the inside temp is 76...
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the inside meaning the apartment...
 
In all honesty, a heat lamp will probably make it too hot for your little guy. A UTH (under tank heater) controlled by a thermostat (or is that rheostat?...always get that confused) would be a better option. I'm in PA and now have all of my snakes heat turned off. We don't have AC and I'm actually worrying about it getting too hot. In south Florida the temperatures should be just right - you probably won't need heat at all at least for the summer. There are lots of people in Florida, I'm sure they'll chime in soon with what they do.

~Katie
 
If your house is at least 76-78F duing the day, you really don't even need heat sorce.
 
CAV said:
If your house is at least 76-78F duing the day, you really don't even need heat sorce.
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no i made it like that for him... normally it is 72 or so...

we have heat lamps on all our other tanks... 85 in the one in the living room right now... on the warm side... didn't check other side because I don't want to disturb the one one the lip up top.... lol she is too cute...
 
A useful tip from the book of "I often have more snakes that rack spaces"

Upper shelves in closets are usually 4-10 degrees warmer that your other living space.

Remember kids, hot air rises. :)
 
How warm is too warm? Would you rule out a room that would get hot when it's hot outside, during the day when the sun is shining on the roof? Like 90 to mid's 90s, probably? (It doesn't get scorching hot, but there is no a/c in that room, so it is noticably warmer, especially if it's kept closed up all day.) Of course I'd put a thermometer there, if I were going to do that. Would that be bad for the snake?
 
now I don't believe that 90 is to hot for these particular snakes. Why? because they are native to florida...and right now it is 98-100... what do the wild ones do...find a shady spot.....if the temps are too hot wouldn't the lil guy soak?


I could be wrong... but I was just thinking.
 
As temperature increases, an animal's metabolism does too. Excess heat also starts to stress snakes causing them to go off food and become lethargic.

While you are correct about these snakes living in Florida, is is less than likely that you will find them out and actively foraging about during the heat of the day. Most reptiles seek shelter from high temperatures during the day and only emerge at or after nightfall. Many nocturnal snakes will not be seen until the ground temps fall below 85-90 degrees.
 
85 is at times too hot for Mr. Bill

Homes in Florida are air conditioned. They are kept between 74 and 78 degrees just like up north. Well 78 is a bit high for up north unless there is no A/C. Down here 78 is ok as the humidity is much more of a factor.

My Corn sometimes chooses his unheated house where the temp is at ambient room temp (74-78 depending on my mood) sometimes he likes his other house above the OTH where the temp inside is between 82 and 84 degrees as the thermostat cycles. If I let the temp in the hot house go much above 85 he never goes in there.

He chooses what he is in the mood for. For days he will stay in the hot house and sometimes he won't go in there for weeks. Is it just my Mr. Bill? I don't think so.

Find out what your snake likes and make it available. OTOH I'm sure he may be quite happy without a temp gradient.

It's your call.

Eric
 
daytona said:
Homes in Florida are air conditioned. They are kept between 74 and 78 degrees just like up north. Well 78 is a bit high for up north unless there is no A/C. Down here 78 is ok as the humidity is much more of a factor.

My Corn sometimes chooses his unheated house where the temp is at ambient room temp (74-78 depending on my mood) sometimes he likes his other house above the OTH where the temp inside is between 82 and 84 degrees as the thermostat cycles. If I let the temp in the hot house go much above 85 he never goes in there.

He chooses what he is in the mood for. For days he will stay in the hot house and sometimes he won't go in there for weeks. Is it just my Mr. Bill? I don't think so.

Find out what your snake likes and make it available. OTOH I'm sure he may be quite happy without a temp gradient.

It's your call.

Eric
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it is temporary, i have to wait for my husband to get back from a buisness trip and then we are going to pick a new home for the lil snake with no name.

right now he has no heat source, we were told to set him out on the porch, when i come home i bring him in... but for the two days that i wasnt doing that i had turned off the AC.... my temps in other tanks are around 85..i have one that stays on the hot side all the time unless she is in blue then she hides on the lip of the cage... i have another tank with two and one is on the warm side half the day and the other is always hiding by her water dish because she is new..(3 days or so now we have had her) sometimes she will hide on the lip... (except right ow they are both up there)


my other large one is always all over her cage...roaming everywhere...

so they all are different...although I don't remember the point i was trying to make... it is early.
Off to work...see you guys later :wavey:
 
Would 75 F we enough for digesting food?

We will be away for the summer and I am also thinking of turning of the heat(in the vivi). WOuld 75 F be enough for digesting the food properly?
Thanks!
 
Sabine66 said:
We will be away for the summer and I am also thinking of turning of the heat(in the vivi). WOuld 75 F be enough for digesting the food properly?
Thanks!
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Don't forget to leave the a/c on 80 or 82, or the whole house could get way hot if there is a heat wave while you are gone. If you were planning to leave it running at 75, maybe turn it up a little (to about 78.) 75 would probably be okay, but 78 would be better.
 
In florida, I agree that there is not real need for a lamp. I would put a small UTH just so the snake has the option to warm itself up, but I don't think that you should do much more than that. The problems you may have with a lamp is that you will cook the entire inside of your viv during the day, but at night, temps drop way more than normal. Even if you get a spot lamp that concentrates the beam of heat in one area, the heat will still dissapate over the entire viv. A UTH gives them a place to warm up if they need it 24 hours a day, yet will keep the rest of the viv cool enough that he can still cool down, and won't be subjected to a temp too warm for him to be comfortable. Leave it up to them...they know best anyways.
 
Sabine66 said:
We will be away for the summer and I am also thinking of turning of the heat(in the vivi). WOuld 75 F be enough for digesting the food properly?
Thanks!
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I read that corn snakes like it warm for digestion. After eating, sometimes, mine goes to digest in the heated house (82-85) and sometimes to the unheated house (74-77). He craps three or four days later regardless.

I would think 75 on the low end but not so cold that he would have any trouble.

Eric
 
Wow? Is this new news to me? I was told that 78 was too cold for a corn to digest at. Our house is kept between 78 and 80 and like 5 degrees warmer when we're out. Down here in Texas, is there a real need for a heater?
 
Jynx said:
In florida, I agree that there is not real need for a lamp. I would put a small UTH just so the snake has the option to warm itself up, but I don't think that you should do much more than that. The problems you may have with a lamp is that you will cook the entire inside of your viv during the day, but at night, temps drop way more than normal. Even if you get a spot lamp that concentrates the beam of heat in one area, the heat will still dissapate over the entire viv. A UTH gives them a place to warm up if they need it 24 hours a day, yet will keep the rest of the viv cool enough that he can still cool down, and won't be subjected to a temp too warm for him to be comfortable. Leave it up to them...they know best anyways.
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see the apt is normally 70 at night and 72ish during the day... so we need a heater regaurdless... i like the lamps because this way i wont have cooked snake from sitting on the pad too long... i will be buying a thermometer gun (aim and it tell you the temp) and now the temps ar under 87 on the waarm side... and on the cool side it is (taking it now)... 78... so im not too concerned...at night the temps drop a lot... but this type of snake is used to that... i have plenty of hides and places to burrow....but they hang out anyway... not many hiders of my 6... two as of now...
 
Just my .02.....

A warm side of 87 F is too warm. You might want to look into a lower wattage bulb.
 
CAV said:
A warm side of 87 F is too warm. You might want to look into a lower wattage bulb.
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we will be doing that too... but my lil ones like it over there... they spend a lot of time on top of their log to get the heat... that is the only reason i havent changed it yet...
 
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