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O my gosh I want a ball python!!!!
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Haarstad
Wanna see my snake?
If GTPs were more handler friendly, i'd buy one of them in an instant
Nitelion94
I am The Nitelion
I did not like mean to single balls out when I said I wanted one it was just what came to me first. I just want a python or boa that don't get huge but is bigger than like a rosy
Balls... not picky. Most of ours will destroy a rat before it hits the aspen. We keep ours at 88-89F outside of breeding season. They're not that picky. We breed them. The majority of our collection is Balls, outside of the Milksnakes, and Blood Pythons. They feed fine on live. We've yet to receive a single injured snake after 10 years or so of working with live feeders. I just don't have the patience to dangle f/t rats over 100+ cages once a week.
The facts that you may want to look at though are-
They require more food, and larger prey than Corn Snakes.
They hold the record for longest lived Python, at around 46+ years, with 25-30 years being the norm.
They do require higher humidity or you could wind up with lesions, respiratory problems, or damaged scales/eyes from stuck sheds/caps.
They require larger caging than Corns.
Ball Pythons are pretty durable though. I've seen then take some abuse and still keep going. They are somewhat boring to me, but I've worked with giants since 97', where my wife has been a Ball keeper since she started. They do have some sharp personalities though, and I've had a few lunge out of their tubs as soon as I pull it open, thinking they're being fed.
If you really want a Ball... it's not our decision. It's yours. Just make an educated one...
The facts that you may want to look at though are-
They require more food, and larger prey than Corn Snakes.
They hold the record for longest lived Python, at around 46+ years, with 25-30 years being the norm.
They do require higher humidity or you could wind up with lesions, respiratory problems, or damaged scales/eyes from stuck sheds/caps.
They require larger caging than Corns.
Ball Pythons are pretty durable though. I've seen then take some abuse and still keep going. They are somewhat boring to me, but I've worked with giants since 97', where my wife has been a Ball keeper since she started. They do have some sharp personalities though, and I've had a few lunge out of their tubs as soon as I pull it open, thinking they're being fed.
If you really want a Ball... it's not our decision. It's yours. Just make an educated one...
ShenziSixaxis
Sticking To The Ceiling
A. Depends on morph.
B. Depends on how they were raised.
C. More of an individual thing.
Boring? My BPs move around more than my corns!
That's from the same place that said corns should be kept at 90F and that moving a snake around a little is extremely stressful. I'm tempted to say that every care sheet they offer is BS.
:roflmao:
That is totally my problem too. Boas, I have found that the drawf species still have a good chance of becoming too big for me, and Rosies can be quite small but cool.
LOL WHAT
snakewispera snr
The Devils Advocate
Costa Rican Boas stay small and look like their big brothers....
Carinata
Ever Evolving Exotics
The thing with ball pythons is that they are heavy bodied pythons, that by nature spend a lot of time hiding. Therefore you will not get the same experience from a Ball Python as you would from say a carpet python. They are just different. Personally I don't like Ball Pythons.
starsevol
Cohabbing is cruelty...
I have had ball pythons, 3 to be exact. All fed fine on f/t. I rehomed them in 2005 after their rack system blew a heating unit and nearly set my house on fire. I liked them just fine.....but I will never get another one. My heart belongs to corns and big sweet Florida kings (Brooksi and goini).
Hallie
SNOW!!!!
I don't understand why people insist on lumping all boas and pythons together...boas vary WILDLY, from the large mainland BCIs to the teeny tiny Candoia sp. Same with pythons (if not more so...spotteds and children's all the way up to retics and Indian rocks). Sorry, huge pet peeve of mine.
How can you possibly start with 'I saw my cousin's burm' and jump to the conclusion that you want a ball? They are completely different animals. Just because they both have 'python' in the name doesn't mean they are necessarily in any way similar in care, personality, etc.
I personally don't like BPs at all (in fact, there are only a few that I would consider keeping, and then only if they were given to me...and seeing as those morphs cost several thousand dollars, that surely isn't going to happen), but I would never extrapolate that to 'I don't like pythons'.
Nitelion, please take a step back and really think about what you like and are looking for in a snake before posting 'I want this' threads every other day. You'll probably be going off to school and not everyone is as fortunate as I was to be able to stay at home and go to a local university. Do the research, narrow it down to something you really like and have a passion for (and are reasonable in their care requirements) and then look for input from the forum. You'll most likely get a better response if you were considering a new species for weeks/months instead of a few hours, had done all the research, and showed a good understanding of the kind of care they require when proposing that you'd like to add to your collection.
How can you possibly start with 'I saw my cousin's burm' and jump to the conclusion that you want a ball? They are completely different animals. Just because they both have 'python' in the name doesn't mean they are necessarily in any way similar in care, personality, etc.
I personally don't like BPs at all (in fact, there are only a few that I would consider keeping, and then only if they were given to me...and seeing as those morphs cost several thousand dollars, that surely isn't going to happen), but I would never extrapolate that to 'I don't like pythons'.
Nitelion, please take a step back and really think about what you like and are looking for in a snake before posting 'I want this' threads every other day. You'll probably be going off to school and not everyone is as fortunate as I was to be able to stay at home and go to a local university. Do the research, narrow it down to something you really like and have a passion for (and are reasonable in their care requirements) and then look for input from the forum. You'll most likely get a better response if you were considering a new species for weeks/months instead of a few hours, had done all the research, and showed a good understanding of the kind of care they require when proposing that you'd like to add to your collection.
Carinata
Ever Evolving Exotics
Hallie is laying down the law!:uzi:
Haarstad
Wanna see my snake?
I had originally forgot about GTP's till you mentioned them and i didn't even know the womas and blackheads existed! Nobody talks about them.
Bloods...not so much though..
Nitelion94
I am The Nitelion
If you read my last thread you can see I did not mean just a balls its just what came into my head I want something like a ball.
How does feeding depend on how they were raised? The same with temperatures and gradient? You're either going to have shy, easily stressed animals that are touchy with feeding, or you're going to have animals that eat decently. Being raised any particular way only shows through on a difference with the females, and that's when they're maturing. Maturing females that are fed fairly well normally go off feed for upwards of 8 months after they hit 900-1,000g in weight.
With temperatures. It's far from an individual thing. Sure, some might like to lay in their cool area more than their warm, but they all require the same husbandry. If you treat temps and gradients like an individual thing, you're going to wind up throwing animals off on what part of the seasons what, etc.
As for the morphs. You have some ranging in the $50-$100 range, on up. There are a few going into the $50,000 range, and some investments (mainly the combo's) are roughly hitting the $25,000 mark or so. It just depends on investment standpoint, how in demand the morph is, and how relatively new to the market it is.
Hypancistrus
New member
David, could you just copy some of my rants to you back in the day so I can not retype this??
Why should ANY child put themselves into a position where they are limiting their choices and potential for college before they even begin??
What if a child with 20 snakes in their room at home gets a good opportunity to attend a college that is outside of their immediate area? What if a school offers them an atheltic scholarship? What if they would REALLY like to attend a study-abroad program as a junior in college? Who will take care of their pets then?
The teenage and college years are far too tumultuous for any child to be the sole caregiver for an animal. If the animal isn't the parents animal, for whom they are responsible and enjoy caring for enough that when the teen is too busy or bored to care for it, they will, then there's no reason for the home to have that pet.
This is the reason why I have always refused sales and adoptions to teenagers, including the teenager in question.
Ouch.
I agree!!!
Carinata
Ever Evolving Exotics
I don't want to have to remember those days, Lauren! I do believe a modest collection is OK for kids but not a huge collection. My situation is a little unique because of my place of work, parents, and where I KNOW I am going to college. But this still does not make me immune. I have 6 snakes now, I have traded off/sold the rest. I do have 6 geckos....until Thursday! Mwahahaha!
I will refuse all sales, trades and so forth with anyone under the age of 18, and the same in regards to large boid's to anyone under the age of 21.
Unfortunately, unless we full and well know that they cannot give a proper home for the animal in question, it's just not our decision. If they feel they are ready, and well versed in the animal they are purchasing, and they sound intelligent enough in that area... well... that's their decision. It's part of growing and learning. We, as breeders, don't tell them to buckle up when they get in the car, or put a sweater on when it's cold outside. Granted our animals we produce and sell are the epitome of our hard work, unless we know they're just not prepared, it's not our judgment.
It's just not our call to go... eh, well you're 18, so you have a future with college, etc. That's entirely in their court.
ShenziSixaxis
Sticking To The Ceiling
In English? o.o
Calift
0.1 addict
It's a genus of snakes