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One more friend in the house :(

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Well my Snow has been pretty fussy feeding since shed. Think she maybe a he, original owners told me she??
Anyways I bought her/him a female fancy mouse to try and she/he refused it so now I housed it and it is a "pet" to my girlfriend. She is a little mad as I named her Supper......lol
If I get a male and a few more females how many pinkies will a female average and how often?? I can use them as I plan on getting some more baby corns this spring early summer. I guess the extras I can freeze and if it gets too far out of hand I will just reduce the breeder mice. Is it cruel to freeze them live? I have heard it is pretty peaceful way for humans, you basically just go to sleep??
 
I guess I am wrong??
I think drowning is bad as you fight to stay alive as long as you can, unless you mean fully submerged and held till you take a breath and fill with water
 
Off Topic Sort Of:

http://tinyurl.com/ywzxk8 This is an excellent book about all the ways people can die outside, including drowning and freezing, avalanche and overheating, dying of thirst, dying of malaria- it's really interesting.
 
All we can do is speculate. But the preferred method for mice is removing the oxygen by displacing it with carbon dioxide.
 
There was just a thread about this didn't work so well with pinks because they could tolerate high CO2 levels as an adaptation to early life in a nest.

I don't know if that's true or not- sounds plausible, though!

How do big factories do it?
 
I'd think drowning for very young mice would be a perfectly humane way to go.

Off topic, but a really bad childhood memory of mine: My grandpa is a really old school kind of guy, lived and worked on farms all his life was conditioned to be able to kill animals without any remorse.

We had un-fixed cats at our house and every so often they'd produce a litter. Generally we'd pick one kitten out of the litter and keep it (we had a lot of land with shrews and mice running about), then my grandpa would come over to 'do away with' the rest of the litter. I had no idea what that meant, turns out he'd drown them :(

Recently though he's taken a real liking to cats in particular, go figure. He has this (spayed) 10 year old cat named Puff which he adores and pampers.
 
Google AVMA Euthanasia Guidelines Rodent:

a. Mouse, Rat and Hamster Neonates up to 10 days of age: Acceptable methods for
euthanasia include: injection of chemical anesthetics (e.g., pentobarbital), decapitation, or cervical dislocation. Additionally, these animals are sensitive to inhalant anesthetics; e.g., halothane or isoflurane (used with appropriate safety considerations) although prolonged exposure may be necessary. Immersion in liquid nitrogen may be used only if preceded by anesthesia. Similarly, anesthesia should precede immersion or perfusion with chemical fixatives. Anesthesia may be induced by inhalant or injectable anesthetics; the institute veterinarian should be consulted for appropriate agents and dosages. Alternatively, when adequately justified, hypothermia may be used to induce anesthesia in pups six days of age or less.
 
With the pinks, breaking the neck really isn't that hard. A simple flick with your finger while hold the head should do the trick. Quick, painless, and humane. Officially humane, actually, going by the guidelines above (thank you Nanci :) ). I have also heard of using dry ice by taking a sealable tank or container, putting the dry ice in, and sticking the pinks the tank in a shoe box or something to keep them from touching the ice and getting burned. (I always failed the run-on sentence lesson in grade school... I should be a lawyer.) I'm not sure how well that method would work though, just what I heard somewhere.
 
That same guideline said they were resistant to hypoxia and methods that employed hypoxia could take a long time.
 
It seems up for interpretation to me, but from what I can see it doesn't say anything against hypoxia- it just warns that a longer period of exposure may be required. I could be wrong though. :shrugs:
 
Thanks!
I know CO2 is best but how do I store dry ice as I will only need a small amount at a time?
I checked locally and there is a minimum purchase required.
As far a chemical/drugs do they leave anything behind that can hurt the snake?
I guess I can try the neck snapping but really would prefer a less hands on method?
 
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