well, when i was at the vivarium looking for a corn, they had their animals in these TINY boxes, and they were throughing them around everywhere. it is true they had a great selection, but i fail to beleive every one of their snakes were healthy. i bought my snake at a small place "The Animal Connection" they didnt have as many difforent kinds, but they had a guarenteed health bill for every purchace and the people their knew a lot about snakes. i bought Juliette there. by the way, can you read my thred on Mouth rot? no one has yet,