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PETA

yeah but even mice bred in racks or wherever were probably still better off than the animals we eat due to what they are fed and all the hormones pumped into them; a lot of the time they are so obese and messed up from growing so quickly they can't even walk.
 
scottrussell said:
a lot of the time they are so obese and messed up from growing so quickly they can't even walk.

In my estimation, this sort of scenario is the absolute extreme and by all means not the standard. There are 900,000 some beef cattle producers in the US alone and I think you'd be hard pressed to find a even a small handful that meet your criteria.
PETA or anyone else who is lobbying against this industry are going to find the most extreme, exxagerated situations in order to best make their case. Even if those situations are only present in a fraction of a percent of farms in the US, which still doesn't make it acceptable (but it's not as widespread as they would like you to believe).

it seems pretty wrong the way they raise animals for food.
Who exactly is "they"? And just how are they raising animals? You don't actually have to answer these questions here. They are just questions that I think you should stop and ask yourself.
Many people see one 15 second clip of a cow that has a hard time standing or a chicken that gets kicked and they begin to make sweeping generalizations about anyone and everyone who has ever raised cows or chickens. This type of mindset, as much as anything else, is what complicates this situation.
 
i was kinda more referring to poultry than cattle. but i hope your right that's it's not as widespread as peta says. my girlfriend took a tour to a chicken factory/farm whatever in VA a few years ago and she said it wasn't really far off from what people have said about them...7 chickens being held per cage and having their beaks cut off so they can't hurt eachother.
 
Okay I know this thread is kinda old but whatever...

I once saw a show a while back about some PETA people who had traved up into the arctic to try to save some baby seals from poachers. They wanted to make the seal hide "unusable" so that they would not be desired by hunters. What they did was pour red paint all over the baby seals to mess up thier hides.

Well, being the stupid idiots that they are, the PETA morons didn't think enough about camelflauge. The color of the seals gave them camelflauge protection against the rocks.

Now that they were colored red, they were immediately visable to the hungry polar bears and walruses and whatever other predators they have. The baby seals wear all massacred and eaten within a couple hours!

this just goes to show that the people of PETA are really just stupid morons whoi could really care less about the well beaing of animals. They are just a bunch of posers trying to look like they care.
 
King21 said:
Okay I know this thread is kinda old but whatever...

I once saw a show a while back about some PETA people who had traved up into the arctic to try to save some baby seals from poachers. They wanted to make the seal hide "unusable" so that they would not be desired by hunters. What they did was pour red paint all over the baby seals to mess up thier hides.

Well, being the stupid idiots that they are, the PETA morons didn't think enough about camelflauge. The color of the seals gave them camelflauge protection against the rocks.

Now that they were colored red, they were immediately visable to the hungry polar bears and walruses and whatever other predators they have. The baby seals wear all massacred and eaten within a couple hours!

this just goes to show that the people of PETA are really just stupid morons whoi could really care less about the well beaing of animals. They are just a bunch of posers trying to look like they care.

Could you find, or post, a link to this?! That would be great information to archive.

D80
 
Drizzt80 said:
Could you find, or post, a link to this?! That would be great information to archive.

D80
I wish I had the info on where this was from. I only recall readin about it or possibly seeing it on the news. It was a couple of years ago, but I will try to find it.
 
Here is a quote I found on a website about the stupidity of PETA: "On a side note, I'm sure you know these "people" will spray paint anybody who wears fur, destroying the clothing. Well, some people got the bright idea to "go right to the source" so to speak. They decided to start spray painting the baby seals directly, so the seal hunters wouldn't go after them. They got that part of the plan right. The bad news is a baby seal needs that white coat to make it invisible to polar bears. They become easy to see with a large stripe of bright red paint on them, and polar bears know how tasty baby seal is. So the animal is directly doomed to death by their actions instead of having a fighting chance to grow up. So much for well thought out plans."

And here is that web site:
http://www.theconservativezone.com/2003/12/i_dont_think_these_people_are.html

This is just one of many sites about this.
 
I never doubted the sincerity of PeTA members. I think they mean well, I'm just against pretty much everything that they stand for. I'd love to see factory farming become more humane, pets better cared for, dogfighting stopped, and people become more responsible about spaying/neutering pets they don't intend to breed. I think most everyone in America would agree on that. But these people don't want you to be allowed to eat meat, wear leather, or even own pets! Yikes. I can back that up with quotes from their nut-job president.
 
elrojo said:
I never doubted the sincerity of PeTA members. I think they mean well, I'm just against pretty much everything that they stand for. I'd love to see factory farming become more humane, pets better cared for, dogfighting stopped, and people become more responsible about spaying/neutering pets they don't intend to breed. I think most everyone in America would agree on that. But these people don't want you to be allowed to eat meat, wear leather, or even own pets! Yikes. I can back that up with quotes from their nut-job president.
I agree with you. PETA has good ideas about the treatment of animals, but that is where the good stops. They have crazy and psychotic ways of trying to get thier message across. They want to take away the freedoms of the people that makes this country so great!
 
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