Pewter Female - Good, Bad or Indifferent Diffusion?

[Weebonilass]

Earlier Dean was talking that it seemed like darker Pewters tended to have poorer diffusion than the lighter ones.

Nicevenn is one of the darkest Pewters I've seen and I thought her diffusion pretty good, but now he has me wondering... She wasn't overly cooperative tonight, but I'll post a few that I got. Would love to hear the opinions of others on here. If it matters, she's an '06. Thanks in advance

She's darker than these pictures show. The flash really washed her out. I hope to get her out in the sun on Sunday.

 

[Susan]

I personally can't make a generalized statement about darkness of coloration and amount of diffusion in any of the bloodred morphs. I haven't seen enough comparisons and the amount of change the blood morphs go through as they age makes a difference as well. I've heard many of the more experienced breeders state that the hatchlings that don't look as diffused end up being the better specimens as adults. What we might want to get going in this thread is as many "hatchling and adult" comparison photos as we can in order to make some better theories. We can look at and compare both the darkness of color and amount of diffusion present. We can limit this thread to pewters only and make another thread for normal bloodreds as well. Just a thought.

 

[Weebonilass]

I personally can't make a generalized statement about darkness of coloration and amount of diffusion in any of the bloodred morphs. I haven't seen enough comparisons and the amount of change the blood morphs go through as they age makes a difference as well. I've heard many of the more experienced breeders state that the hatchlings that don't look as diffused end up being the better specimens as adults. What we might want to get going in this thread is as many "hatchling and adult" comparison photos as we can in order to make some better theories. We can look at and compare both the darkness of color and amount of diffusion present. We can limit this thread to pewters only and make another thread for normal bloodreds as well. Just a thought.

Susan,

I would be more than open to others putting up their Pewter pictures on here. I love the diffusion, but I think I like the dark coloration better... so I'm thinking that if I have to give up some diffusion for colour that would be okay with me... but I'd like both

Would like to know what you think about this girl's diffusion or do you need better pictures? I hope to get her and my Granite outside on Sunday. Need to see if my daughter will be available, I'm definitely not doing these two by myself

 

[Blue Apple Herps]

I think she has great diffusion!

 

[Weebonilass]

I think she has great diffusion!

Thank you I picked her up from a show and I can't tell you how many times I stopped and looked this little girl before moving onto the next table. Apparently a lot of others did also, as the guy had been hauling her to a number of shows with a lot of interest, but nobody putting money down (he wouldn't deal on the price). He finally decided that if she didn't sell this show, she was going to be a keeper. And I probably would have passed on her since I was waiting for Paula's clutch to show up, when Bekkers came back with a most gorgeous male Granite that I had also kept hedging on that was at the same table. Decided that I shouldn't let both great deals get by me, so said if she was there when I got back there, it was meant to be.... well, obviously it was meant to be

Now the misnamed Butter Stripe, well, someone got an awesome deal on that one... it was gone when I went back for that one... then again, what would I have done with a yellow snake

 

[Roy Munson]

I think her diffusion is pretty good, Ginger. It just seems to me that the most diffused pewters I've seen have been the very light silvery ones. I see the same thing with granites-- the lighter they are, the more diffused they seem to be.

My '05 female pewter has very poor diffusion, and she's a bit darker than your girl. I really like her look anyway, but I'd love to have a very-dark, patternless pewter.

 

[Weebonilass]

I've been a big fan of Paula's since the first time you posted her picture. I love her dark, dark colour.

 

[Marcel Poots]

Dean is right. Silvery Pewters are the ones that have the biggest degree of diffusion. Dark ones have the most pattern. Here is my 2004 male.

A young female (in 2002)

A dark female from the same clutch:

 

[Weebonilass]

Marcel,

I don't normally care much for light colored Pewters, but that first male you posted is gorgeous Dean has pointed out that what I really want is like a "white-sided" Pewter, similar to what you seen in the Granites.

That said, I'd love to have a Pewter like that last one... yummy!

 

[Drizzt80]

Maybe it's just a female thing? :shrugs: Here's an older picture of my male.

D80

 

[Lexcorn]

Pewter male '06 (photo at 16 months):

I have, also, retained a stunning male Pewter & Anery Pewter female from 2007 Breedings.

I shall post photo's when I trace the 'back up' file.

Lex

 

[torsten]

Dean, does yours have a bit of Zig-Zag going on there?

loving all the pewters, one of my favourite morphs.

 

[Susan]

Susan,

I would be more than open to others putting up their Pewter pictures on here. I love the diffusion, but I think I like the dark coloration better... so I'm thinking that if I have to give up some diffusion for colour that would be okay with me... but I'd like both

Would like to know what you think about this girl's diffusion or do you need better pictures? I hope to get her and my Granite outside on Sunday. Need to see if my daughter will be available, I'm definitely not doing these two by myself

Sorry, but I didn't get a chance to actually finish my post yesterday...child "emergency" so I hit "Submit Reply" while I had the chance.

I think your pewter has very good diffusion! I have no preference between the dark ones and the light ones...I love them all!

Here is my '04 pewter male in Dec '04, Dec '05, Dec '06 and April '08. The last one is his '07 daughter. Her diffusion isn't as good as his, but I love her anyway!

 

[Roy Munson]

Dean, does yours have a bit of Zig-Zag going on there?

Yep.

Brent may be onto something too. It seems that the males in most bloods and blood-combos achieve better diffusion. But they also seem to be a little lighter in coloration than the females (or at least less "contrasty"). Here's a pic of my '05 male pewter. He has much better diffusion than his female counterpart.

 

[Weebonilass]

Dean,

I love that picture of Paul... he has that coppery look to him in it