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tigerlillyrk

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Can i use pine shavings for my mice that are getting fed to my snakes? it would be suncoast pine shavings. I didnt know if it would effect them at all?
 
Kilned pine is okay to use. Also called processed pine sometimes. Kilned pine has been dried to remove the oils from the wood. I just buy big bales of aspen from tractor supply company they also sell kiln pine sometimes I mix the 2 for odor control.
 
the thing that would worry me here is, mice a notorious for gnawing, if they injest some of the wood it MAY cause problems for your snake, dont know if it would but it would worry me, just in case....
 
I've used the big bales of pine shavings from Walmart for longer than I can remember. I've never had a problem. I do believe it is kilned dried though. The harder chips sold at some feed stores for horse stables is not very pourous and it does smell stronger, so I wouldn't use that stuff.
 
ive had rats get URI's from pine bedding that was sold as a bedding for small animals. its possible i was buying unkilndried though. just thought id throw that out there...something to ponder as far as the health of your mice too, not just your snakes.
 
visceralrepulsion said:
ive had rats get URI's from pine bedding that was sold as a bedding for small animals. its possible i was buying unkilndried though. just thought id throw that out there...something to ponder as far as the health of your mice too, not just your snakes.
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I've always bred my own mice and rats too. I've never had a problem to speak of. Again I have always used the Walmart bales of wood chips. Never use red Cedar though! That will kill smaller snakes and make larger ones sick. Like I said over twenty years and never a problem. If I only had a few snakes I would go for the Aspen, but for as many animals as I have I have to go the cheaper route. Still I feel confident that it's safe.

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visceralrepulsion said:
ive had rats get URI's from pine bedding that was sold as a bedding for small animals. its possible i was buying unkilndried though. just thought id throw that out there...something to ponder as far as the health of your mice too, not just your snakes.
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How did you determine that the URI was a URI and that it was caused by the pine?

I've been breeding rats and mice for a few years (keeping them longer than many of you have been alive but not actively breeding) and snakes for a few decades. I've used pine throughout and never had any problems that I can attribute to the pine.
 
well i used deductive logic- when i stopped using pine bedding my rats stopped getting URI's. i even had to take some to the vet over it. couldve been other aspects of my husbandry, but i dont know what it would be. they were in clean well ventilated cages. and id had many pet rats. maybe it was the type of pine i was using? who really knows.... *SHRUGS*
 
visceralrepulsion said:
well i used deductive logic who really knows.... *SHRUGS*
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I'm pretty sure those two statements cancel each other out.

You guessed. That's fine. Just say so. You don't know what caused it. Just say so.

In the effort to be helpful MANY people pass on incorrect information.

There are 2 cures. More edumacation before the helpful efforting or a reputation as a nincompoop is fully accepted and even embraced.
 
wow, wilomn, you were just unnecessarily rude. i think you should "edumacate" yourself on some manners. i said i used deductive logic because: what do you know, when i stopped using that bedding, i never had another URI in my rats. and "who knows" is a figure of speech to say theres no proof, but that i think im educated enough to form a hypothesis, and to follow through with an answer. and the answer was dont use the bedding that coincided with the URI's. and it worked. so i guess im more intuitive, and smarter than your assumption. people like you are the reason people are afraid to voice their opinion in forums. but you ran into the wrong person to bully in a forum to make yourself feel big. get a life. and dont bother responding, i refuse to argue this any further, and i wont be reading anything from this point on. i hope your attempt at intimidation, or whatever you were trying for made you feel better though, i really do. i feel sorry for you. goodday =]
 
Snakehead said:
I've always bred my own mice and rats too. I've never had a problem to speak of. Again I have always used the Walmart bales of wood chips. Never use red Cedar though! That will kill smaller snakes and make larger ones sick. Like I said over twenty years and never a problem. If I only had a few snakes I would go for the Aspen, but for as many animals as I have I have to go the cheaper route. Still I feel confident that it's safe.

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Gorgeous mice! It's nice to see someone else who doesn't just breed albino mice. I've come to enjoy breeding my mice almost as much as my snakes. And as far as this thread goes, I've used both Aspen and pine and the only difference I've found is the aspen provides better odor control. There have been no ill effects from using pine shavings. This applies to both mice and rats
 
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