• Hello!

    Either you have not registered on this site yet, or you are registered but have not logged in. In either case, you will not be able to use the full functionality of this site until you have registered, and then logged in after your registration has been approved.

    Registration is FREE, so please register so you can participate instead of remaining a lurker....

    Please be certain that the location field is correctly filled out when you register. All registrations that appear to be bogus will be rejected. Which means that if your location field does NOT match the actual location of your registration IP address, then your registration will be rejected.

    Sorry about the strictness of this requirement, but it is necessary to block spammers and scammers at the door as much as possible.

Popping Females

J

Jase82

New member
Hey, Ive read that when you pop a female you see a white mound, and two red/black dots. Is it true that there are dots, and what are they? If I see these dots is it proof positive that it is a female?

Thanks guys
 
The only "positive" response you get from popping is on a male - the hemipenes will evert.

On females, you may produce poop, musk, and you may see scent glands (probably the red dots). However, there is no positive way to tell a neonate female. Therefore, all neonate snakes are either male, or "probably not male". Most people experienced with popping feel comfortable enough to tell you that the hatchlings they couldn't get to produce hemipenes (even with multiple tries) are female, and they're usually right about this.

On light colored hatchling snakes, you can also candle (back light) them to see the hemipenes or lack there of.
 
Of course if you didn't live in CA I'd invite to the IL Wheaton show so that you and Emily could torture my hatchlings with lots of popping practice.:spinner:
All kidding aside, practice is the only way to get better at popping and knowing what you are looking at. If you have an amel or similarly "clear" snake you can check your popping result with candling. I always tell people the only sure way of knowing you have a female is when she lays eggs!
Terri
 
crackerhead said:
Of course if you didn't live in CA I'd invite to the IL Wheaton show so that you and Emily could torture my hatchlings with lots of popping practice.:spinner:
All kidding aside, practice is the only way to get better at popping and knowing what you are looking at. If you have an amel or similarly "clear" snake you can check your popping result with candling. I always tell people the only sure way of knowing you have a female is when she lays eggs!
Terri
Click to expand...

Haha thanks. I am curious about the dots in females. It is strange to me that I have only found one source that site that females have these, however after watching many videos on popping, and handling my snake for a while, when i pop her, i see the white mound and dots. So im a little confused as to why they aren't talked about more
 
But the dots don't guarantee a female, you've got to remember. What if you're trying to pop a male and you don't do it right, so the hemipenes don't pop? You'll see the start of the hemipenes... which will look like dots. Dots aren't a confirmation of a female snake, they're more like, this is what happens when you don't get hemipenes. Before I could pop my male properly, he would just pop like a female... until I got some practice.
 
Emily1188 said:
But the dots don't guarantee a female, you've got to remember. What if you're trying to pop a male and you don't do it right, so the hemipenes don't pop? You'll see the start of the hemipenes... which will look like dots. Dots aren't a confirmation of a female snake, they're more like, this is what happens when you don't get hemipenes. Before I could pop my male properly, he would just pop like a female... until I got some practice.
Click to expand...

From what I have heard, the females specifically have the two red dots and males do not. I do not know too much about popping, but I have seen enough videos and pictures to tell that they are not hemipenes. So, do males have these red dots? Or is what I am looking at female specific?
 
Jase82 said:
From what I have heard, the females specifically have the two red dots and males do not. I do not know too much about popping, but I have seen enough videos and pictures to tell that they are not hemipenes. So, do males have these red dots? Or is what I am looking at female specific?
Click to expand...

The obvious males won't have those "dots" because the hemipenes will be everted. A male that is not popped correctly will show two red dots... because the hemipenes are red. Females have some glands there that sometimes show up red, sometimes not.
 
Shiari said:
The obvious males won't have those "dots" because the hemipenes will be everted. A male that is not popped correctly will show two red dots... because the hemipenes are red. Females have some glands there that sometimes show up red, sometimes not.
Click to expand...

Ok, thanks for the info, I have one more question. Sorry if it seems like i am being stubborn, but I really want to understand this.

I made a pain picture ^.^
If the hemi-penes come from under the slit like this...

would the dots be in a wierd place to be the hemi-penes because they are not comming from under the slit, but are in the middle of the opening?

Thanks =D
 
Jase82 said:
Ok, thanks for the info, I have one more question. Sorry if it seems like i am being stubborn, but I really want to understand this.

I made a pain picture ^.^
If the hemi-penes come from under the slit like this...

would the dots be in a wierd place to be the hemi-penes because they are not comming from under the slit, but are in the middle of the opening?

Thanks =D
Click to expand...


Forgot my picture XD
 

Attachments

  • Snake Pop.JPG
    Snake Pop.JPG
    8.1 KB · Views: 16
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top