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showdownmetal

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my two corns are a alittle over a year old. i asked when i could breed them and i was told the 333 rule (3years.3feet.300grams). their room has been cold all summer due to air conditioning and after learning i couldnt breed them yet i decided to turn on a light so i could see them better because i decided not to brumate them. my male stayed under the light all day and at night he went in to his hide and i saw him "Quakeing" or moving in a back and forth manner towards the female. my female will be shedding soon and my male is still doing this every night. i thing they are trying to breed. kathy loves book says they can breed at one year of age but theyre only 100 someodd grams (cuz i lost them both for 3 months after buying them last thanksgiving!) any help would be good.
thanks
 
They should be housed seperately.
If your girl breeds too early she could become eggbound and die.

I temporarily housed 2 "males" together...and one laid eggs. She was 7 years old and a good breeding weight but I never gave her an eggbox (why would a MALE need an eggbox) and she became eggbound and died.
 
is there anything else i can do? what if they were already breeding and i didnt know? is there any way other than using a seringe (bad spelling) to take out "bound eggs"?
 
showdownmetal said:
is there anything else i can do? what if they were already breeding and i didnt know? is there any way other than using a seringe (bad spelling) to take out "bound eggs"?
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Don't attempt that yourself. You don't even know if she has eggs yet let alone bound. Separate them now. Before more problems arise. And read up more in Kathy love book . Start at basic care, considering the snakes were cool all summer because the air condition was on. Do you have a UTH. A thermometer with a probe. More responsibility is needed here. :headbang:
 
well its not all my fault although i should take better care and now i am.
but my mom hates snakes and all kind of rodents because she was attacked by a rabid fox. i will have to get another tank. thanks for the help.
 
:-offtopic What do snakes and rodents have to do with a rabid fox?

Anyway-I am glad you have found this forum and are taking steps to remedy the situation. Hopefully it is not too late for your female. PLEASE take the time to seriously research this forum for proper care of your snakes. There is a wealth of information to help you take the best care and precautions to make sure your pets are/remain healthy and you truly can enjoy them. Good luck.
 
i do take good care of my animals. its my parents i worry about. btw my mom hates any thing that in any way resembles somthing nonbiblical. i dont see snakes as non biblical since moses staff turned into a serpent. but whatev shes entitled to her own opinion. theres nothing wrong with my snakes, theyre both beautiful. but by the way do snakes regrow theyre tails if they had a bad shed. ITS NOT MISSING ITS WHOLE TAIL! it just has a bit of a nub shaped end compared to my males > shaped end.
thanks
 
showdownmetal said:
i do take good care of my animals. its my parents i worry about. btw my mom hates any thing that in any way resembles somthing nonbiblical. i dont see snakes as non biblical since moses staff turned into a serpent. but whatev shes entitled to her own opinion. theres nothing wrong with my snakes, theyre both beautiful. but by the way do snakes regrow theyre tails if they had a bad shed. ITS NOT MISSING ITS WHOLE TAIL! it just has a bit of a nub shaped end compared to my males > shaped end.
thanks
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Well it's not your mom's snake it your's. Your responsibility. Don't use your mom as an excuse. And housing two snakes together with little knowage (which I don't have either on corn snakes) is not the best for the snakes.
Don't get mad we'll just concern about your snakes. That why everyone is here right!! Just keep on reading up on every thing here. You'll find some interesting things and boring.
Now, I don't think the tail tip will grow back. That might be from a bad shed. Not all of the skin came off and it cut off circulation to it and die off. To avoid this try misting the VIV during the shed process and raise the humidly a bit . Also you could try letting the snake crawl the a damp paper towel while holding it. What are your temps anyway and the humidity levels too.
That could help us answer some questions.

Let us know
 
the tail was like that from the first shed(when i knew absolutly nothing about snakes). i dont have temps on them. just a small heat tape thing that i got from countrymax when i bought my snakes. i only have two now because i bought the second one after i lost my first and wasnt able to tell my parents (because they would have killed me) also i thought my dog or cat ate it. later i lost the other and told them. they were hoping my other pets ate them so i didnt think i would ever see them again. three months later my mom found them while doing the clothes in the basement (thought it was a shoelace, screemed pretty loud!! hehe). and as for the other my dad found him (thought he was a dog turd. (young charcoal coiled up!)). now theyre ok. they live in a 55 gallon tank (only thing i have except 10 gal.) they have waterdishes and really cool hides i made them out of super sculpey in fine art class (will post pics in gallery when cammera works)
they have the bark stuff that blends really well with the norm corn snakes.
i think im taking pretty good care of them. they were being fed as much as they would eat (sometimes up to six pinkeys when they were 18 inches/ wouldnt eat crawlers yet). now they are on large mice at 2 and 1/2 feet long.
any recomendations on what else i should be doing. any input would help.
also i was told they dont need uv lighting because they get vitamin d from mouses livers. ?? i dont know
thanks.
 
Do you know....... that feeding an eightteen inch snake six pinky's is like super power feeding.
You should only feed the snake an food item, punky,fuzzy, hopper whatever, that is only 1 1/2 of the snakes widest girth (point).
You could also divide your 55 gal tank in half to hold the snakes. Ask your dad for help. You could use Plexiglas or some plywood and maybe hot glue it in place until it cools off or silicone. Make sure snake are not around until it cools or drys. Do you have anything to check the temperatures substrate.
You need to read everything in this site. Basic care and up.

Keep in touch
 
yeah, im 18 i dont think my dads help will be necessary. (he built the tank in hopes of using it for a caribean fish tank or something) also hes a carpenter. but thanks anyways.
 
Just a point about Super Sculpey.... you may want to read the warnings... specifically where it says can be toxic to animals even after its baked. Other than that.. you should get Kathy Loves book and read up on housing, feeding and breeding. And no corn snakes tails don't grow back... don't think I've heard of any type of snake that regenerates a lost tail, none that I can think of offhand anyhow.
 
only warning i see on the box is its non-toxic.
i dont see where clay made of pvc can hurt any animal. i dont know maby im wrong. still looks cool.
 
Hmmm personnaly i would seperate them but as someone else said you could divide the vivarium.I do keep a couple of corns together with no problems what so ever.Aslong as they are fed seperately and fed well and are the same size what harm could come to them?apart from the very occasional cases of one eating the other then its fine.I know a breeder who has been keeping juvies together for over 30 years and in that period hes only ever had 2 eggbound females and they were cured with a very simple procedure(spelling) and were totaly fine.
 
lozzer said:
I do keep a couple of corns together with no problems what so ever...apart from the very occasional cases of one eating the other then its fine
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Does anyone else see anything wrong with this? Thank you for providing a classic example as to why you shouldn't house snakes together. :sidestep:

Then again maybe it's just me that likes to keep all my babies alive.

~Katie
 
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