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nicole.l.irwin

nicole.l.irwin

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Okay so i have a rock hide ( her favourite) and then a paper towel toll covered in the substrate ! Two morning in a room i have hone in their to handle her for five mins and she has been ice cold .... So i put a thin layer of zoo med substrate over it and place her t towel over the uth and put her rock over it .... I have one of those infrared lights that produce heat but I've read so many things about people saying they are no good and mess with your snakes night vision.... I have a zoo med reptitemp control and however its not digital .... Guess what I'm asking is did i do the right thing ? I did have the paper towel roll diagonally across from it and she did use it but i feel so guilty n upset when i puck her up and shes that cold... I have moved the roll to the cool side of the tank so she does have another place to go


Just a good old Canadian Alberta girl 😝
 
I've been wondering this myself. Sometimes my babies feel like they're cold, yet they have hides on their warm sides too. Do they just like to be cold sometimes?
 
They should always feel cold to you. The thermostat only needs to be set at 85-87 which is cooler than your skin which is around 90-95.
 
My hand is not a thermometer?! What?! Just kidding. It's amazing the things you didn't know you didn't know until you suddenly need to know them and don't. Sorry if I hijacked your thread Nicole, I got my question answered... not sure if you did?
 
albertagirl said:
I've been wondering this myself. Sometimes my babies feel like they're cold, yet they have hides on their warm sides too. Do they just like to be cold sometimes?
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They are reptiles and cold blooded - their bodies are the temperature around them! Considering the thermostats should be set around 85F, and our own skin's temperature is around 90F or higher, it makes sense that they'd always feel slightly cool to the touch.

I suggest investing in the proper equipment, which in my opinion is a thermostat, digital thermometer (probed), and UTH.

All the best!
 
NH93 said:
I suggest investing in the proper equipment, which in my opinion is a thermostat, digital thermometer (probed), and UTH.

All the best!
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I'll see your UTH, probed thermometer, thermostat, and raise you a temp gun. :laugh:

I'm pretty sure I have the right temp range in there, it just still shocks me how cold they feel when they've been hanging out on their cold sides. I'm used to dogs... always hot!
 
Well she was in her hide n she felt warm and was active , before she wouldn't move n crawl into my shirt to warm up n then get active , she has another hide on the cooler side and she didn't strike or seem to be grumpy towards me..... To be honest she didn't feel cool she was damn well the temp of an ice cube


Just a good old Canadian Alberta girl 😝
 
nicole.l.irwin said:
She will move to her other hide if she gets too hot right


Just a good old Canadian Alberta girl 😝
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I'm going to say no. There's *some* debate about this with corn snakes, but you should never leave any heat source unregulated. Imagine if you left the heat on in your house, but it wasn't set to a specific temperature... similar idea.

With other species, such as the ball pythons in the photos above, they do NOT move if it's "too hot". They can't always (usually/ever) tell, because their nerves aren't like ours.

Please turn off a UTH if there is no thermostat. At the VERY LEAST you'll want a lamp dimmer, but I personally didn't have good luck with them.
 
Sorry I should have added, that was for UTHes. When they feel uncomfortable on the warm side they do move to the cold side (and vise-versa)! They've got those kind of basic instincts ;) but for belly heat it is a different story -- most of the time.
 
I agree that they don't always move when they should. Other incentives may entice them to 'stay put' when they should move. Fear of being eaten comes to mind first. The cold side is cold...but moving could spell death. Prey-species mentality, as I consider it.

I strongly support the recommendation for a heat gun. Incredibly handy little gadget to double-check your digital, probed readouts.
 
Just to be clear, you're looking for a temperature gun, not a heat gun. I believe there is another tool which often gets called a heat gun which is used for heating and shrinking shrink wrap... so you may ask for a heat gun at, say, home depot, and end up with the wrong product. Anyway, I would imagine home depot, canadian tire, and probably even walmart would have them. I got mine from Amazon.ca
 
I've noticed that sometimes it depends on the snake. In both my cages I have UTH controlled by thermostats and checked with probe thermometers and both are constant at 86F, yet my baby corn rarely go into the warm hide where my adult rarely goes into the cool hide. I firmly believe they will choose what suites them best and that's why it is our responsibility to ensure that they have exactly what they need. That why we give them the best living conditions. But yes she should move when it's too hot for her liking, however they might only realize it when they are too hot already and trust me that will get them in a bad mood.
 
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