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Rebel Corns...breaking the "shed rules"

carol

Down with the sickness
Well two rules broken by some of my females and it is yet early in the season. My Miami Motley just finished laying a clutch of 19 small but fertile eggs. The interesting thing is, she only shed once since coming out of brumation. She never did her "post brumation" shed to notify me when she was ready to breed. After a few weeks when everyone else I had brought out of brumation had shed and when this little female started frantically searching her cage, I started to put a male in with her. She VERY willingly bred many times. I think each time lock up only took a minute or two, she was very cooperative. Everything else went completely normal, she did her pre-lay shed (well I guess it was a post brumation/pre-lay combo) a little over a week ago, and layed her eggs. I am glad I didn't wait for her to shed to breed her, or I would have been too late.
However, I wonder if this would have happened to someone with a very small collection, if they would have faithfully waited for that post brumation shed? So I guess if anyone else notices that thier female is taking extra long to shed, I'd advise attempting to breed anyway.
On the other side of the coin, I had a female shed out of brumation, swell up and refuse to breed. Not only did she refuse, my males were not too hot on her either. They would try, but would give up easily. A couple months later, she shed again and I was bummed that I had missed her season. In the follow weeks I noticed she was searching her cage a lot. So just to experiment, I put her in with a male and this time he wasn't giving up on her. Right now she is pretty swollen, has about 12 noticable lumps in her belly, is starting to refuse food, and her belly is starting to turn milky. Hmmmm.....
I think they enjoy making me pull out my hair.
 
Hmmmmmm

However, I wonder if this would have happened to someone with a very small collection, if they would have faithfully waited for that post brumation shed? So I guess if anyone else notices that thier female is taking extra long to shed, I'd advise attempting to breed anyway.

I didn't brumate my corns but one female shed and was ready to mate...However the one that didn't shed was still willing to breed at the same time...I guess the shed is just a clue that some corns forget to tell you about...

On the other side of the coin, I had a female shed out of brumation, swell up and refuse to breed. Not only did she refuse, my males were not too hot on her either. They would try, but would give up easily. A couple months later, she shed again and I was bummed that I had missed her season. In the follow weeks I noticed she was searching her cage a lot. So just to experiment, I put her in with a male and this time he wasn't giving up on her. Right now she is pretty swollen, has about 12 noticable lumps in her belly, is starting to refuse food, and her belly is starting to turn milky. Hmmmm.....
I think they enjoy making me pull out my hair.

Do you think it may be possible sperm retention or did the mating just happen to be fast enough that you may have missed it???I know some reptiles are capable of sperm retention...Could it be possible???
 
Anything is possible, but I don't think sperm retention would change the strange fact that she is approaching her third shed of the season and that this third shed appears to be the pre lay shed. Even if they had bred without my knowing, she sould have layed eggs after her last (second) shed. Instead, this second shed acted more like a post brumation shed than the first, and she began to breed, and my male was much more responsive to her. I guess they like to keep me on my toes. Or maybe this female knew I had more Murphy's law than I can take this season so she decided to cheer me up by laying eggs after all. :D
 
This is interesting b/c my anery never did a post-brum shed either. I just had her out one day and felt signs that she was ovulating. Sure enough, she willingly went at it with my little caramel.

Since then she's declined food & seems pretty big around, so now I'm watching her like a hawk, afraid she'll drop the eggs without a prelay shed - does this seem likely? They bred on 4/1, so I probably don't have to worry until the end of the month - right?

I've had corns for a while, but this is the first time I've ever bred them :D, so I'm a little paranoid!

Kp
 
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