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Regurgitation

StoneGator

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I fed Darth Maul on Saturday night 9 pm. He ate, went back into his viv and stayed in his hide all day Sunday. I got up this morning and found the pinkie regurgitated. His temps are between 70 and 85 and once he was fed he was not handled or disturbed. How long should I wait before trying to feed him again?

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Follow this exactly and you will be fine. ! Theres a thread on this but I cant find the link but I keep it on hand for reference.

This will answer all of your questions ! I had a regurge and I followed this and now my guy is great !


Kathy Love FAQ's

FAQ from Kathy Love on Regurgitation Treatment

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT - once a snake has regurged, especially twice or more, it is more likely to keep on regurging until it dies, unless something is changed about its care and feeding. It is very important NOT to let this continue. PLEASE FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW VERY CAREFULLY. This is from my FAQ on regurges:

I suspect your problem is probably not bad mice, but about handling too soon, feeding too soon or too large of a meal, a stomach "bug", or improper temps. If you make these mistakes once, or even twice, it is not usually a problem if you FOLLOW MY INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY. But remember, each time it regurges, the stomach acids are depleted, and the whole electrolyte balance is thrown off more and more each time, and it makes it MORE likely that it will continue to throw up until it dies. (those consequences are just my opinions - I do not know if science backs up my conclusions, but my experience certainly does!) That is why it is so important to NOT ALLOW another regurge.

The next month or two is crucial. DO NOT feed it for AT LEAST 8 days since the last regurge. NOT ANYTHING AT ALL! Then get a newborn frozen pinky and cut it in half (or cut off just the head) If she eats it, leave her alone for a whole week. (no handling). Repeat the partial pinkie feeding the following week. Then feed a whole newborn pinkie a week after that, if there has been no regurge. Leave alone for a whole week. If she regurges, wait a week and repeat 1/2 pinkie. If she keeps it down, wait a week and repeat whole pinkie. If she holds down a couple of meals, DO NOT rush back into larger meals and more handling. Treat this seriously. Go very slowly. After 3 successful meals, go to a newborn pink every 5 days. Go back to normal feedings only after 6 successful meals. Always wait to handle until after 3 or 4 days, but only AFTER 6 successful meals. No handling until then (causes stress, need to keep stress down). And NEVER feed again right after a regurge - ALWAYS wait AT LEAST 7 or 8 days, maybe even up to 10 days, and then only feed something that was about 1/2 the size (or less) of what she regurged..

Also, be sure that temps are not too warm or cool. Try to give an area of low to mid 80s on one side and 70s on the other. Too hot or cold will cause regurges.

Grapefruit seed extract can sometimes help if the snake has some sort of "stomach bug" (any microbial problem) as it is a natural remedy that is good against many kinds of pathogens, but not as strong as an antibiotic prescribed by a doctor. This product has been used in agriculture for many years and seems to be very safe, as long as you dilute it with enough water that the acidity does not burn the tissues. A vet has told me he feels that it may somewhat alter the pH of the animal and thus change the way medicines are absorbed. So if you use this product and then take the snake to a vet, mention the treatment so it can be taken into account if the vet decides to change the prescription because of it. It is best to mix it in a glass and taste it to make sure it is not so bitter that the snake refuses to drink it. I have used it on myself and so has my husband. I find it works better on stomach problems than for other symptoms (such as respiratory - I didn't have any luck treating colds or other respiratory problems).You can buy it at a local health food store or online. Please refer to the following website for more background info:
http://www.nutriteam.com/index2.html

I have also had success with a probiotic called Nutri Bac, a fine powder containing seven different microflora that should be inhabiting the gut of reptiles, but may be absent due to stress, disease,
 
Really hoping it was just a pinkie that was too big for him and not some other major issue

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Really hoping it was just a pinkie that was too big for him and not some other major issue

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That could be it, lets hope so, but better safe than sorry right? And with that being said, a regurge is a regurge.

Good luck and keep us updated.
 
You say his temps are between 70 & 85 is that hot side vs cool side?
Sorry if you have this posted somewhere, but how are you heating and measuring temps?
 
The heat comes from a UTH. at the moment I'm using a digital thermometer/humidity meter. I do have a thermostat and wired thermometer on order. Expecting those later this week.

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Aww, I'm so sorry! You must be so worried. Sith lords are pretty tough, I'm sure he'll come around.
 
When I got home I checked on him, did my usual changing the water and such. Seemed ok, no weird behaviour. So I'm just hoping the Force is strong in him.I did add some vines for additional cover and an imperial walker and a tie interceptor.

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Frostbite is on regurgitation protocol. I've never had a problem with him. I have Nutribac on order from Kathy Love.
Just wondering where you get your feeders from?
 
I have never had a problem with petsmart mice, I have, however had a LOT of issues with Petco mice. Either way, follow the protocol. Better safe than sorry!
 
Just to update. Darth Maul seems ok. He was moving around last night. Even saw him drink some water. Haven't handled him and waiting till Monday to try an and feed him again.

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Not sure when your thermometer and stat are supposed to be there, but I would not try to feed again til the temps are correct and stable.
 
Are you thinking it's more my temps are off, rather than the pinkie being to big as the reason for the regurge?

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No, no one is sure. But better safe than sorry. Having another regurge would be really bad for your snake. Missing a meal is not a problem at all for a snake.
 
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