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Rosy boa feeding suggestions?

Hail_Britannia

Animals > People.
As some of you may know, we got a new snake at the New England Reptile Expo a few weeks ago- a rosy boa. I'd been wanting one for a while and we found one that was reasonably priced. He appears fat and healthy, and the vendor said that while he had been feeding on live pinkies, he had also taken frozen/thawed, so I didn't worry. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to get him to eat any of the frozen pinks we bought for him yet.

It's only been a few weeks, so I'm not too worried, but I'd like suggestions on how to get him eating. When we brought him home, we let him be for five days without handling before offering him a meal. He wouldn't touch it. No big deal, we waited another five days and offered again. He seemed more interested, but still no dice, so we cut a slit in the pink and left him alone with it for about four hours. He still wouldn't eat it. He's in a 10 gallon cage with a screen top. He has a very small bowl of water available to him at all times. The temps on his warm side range from about 88 to 92 degrees F (controlled by thermostat). The cool side temps are usually between 70 and 80 degrees, although they have dipped into the high 60s on a few occasions when we forgot to turn the apartment heat on at night. He's on aspen bedding, deep enough to burrow (and he does). He has two hides, one on the warm side and one on the cool side. The humidity in his tank sits at around 10%. He is in a room of fairly high traffic, as he's right above my computer and I spend a lot of time in here with the light on.

Does anyone have any suggestions for getting him to eat frozen/thawed (or indeed, anything at all)? I was under the impression that rosies were pretty easy to feed, and while I know it's not panic time yet, I'd feel a lot better if he would eat a few meals so that we can begin taming him down. He's pretty flighty. I would be willing to track down a live pink to jump-start his appetite if that's what it takes, although I'd far rather feed him frozen/thawed. We'd really appreciate any thoughts you folks might have on the subject!
 
I'm not an expert in Rosy Boa's but my guess would be that he is too stressed to eat. The fact that he is in a high traffic area and that you're on the computer a lot may not let him settle in to his new home. Also you said that he is "pretty flighty" would also suggest stress.

A couple solutions to this may be a couple more hides, but the preferable one would be to move him to a low traffic area. A quiet dark place would be ideal.

If that is not possible, something else you can do is cover his tank with a blanket or towel and try to not bump or shake his stand/cage. Eventhough he will still be in the same area, the fact that he can't see anyone will help him settle down a lot easier.

I know some more experienced Boa owners are on here and will give you more specific advise on feeding but I'm sure that my suggestions will not hurt your progress in feeding your boa.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
 
I probably can't help much, but the way I feed my rosy, who seems kind of slow to find the food herself, is to put her in her feeding bin and then hand her the food with tongs, but usually not right in her face; I gently touch her upper body with it.

Fauna Classifieds has a guy on there, can't think of his real name, Ancient DNA- he could porbably help you out. In the Rosy Boa section.
 
Yeah, we've tried the tongs, Nanci. He shies away from them....though as I said, he did seem more interested in the food last night than he was the first time we got him.

Porro, I think you're on to something. I don't think new snakey was handled very much by his previous owner, so he probably is super stressed. I think we're going to follow your advice and move him into the bedroom, which is much lower traffic and has a door that shuts. The only problem with that is we keep our other snake in the bedroom, and I was trying to maintain a level of quarantine, since the rosy is new. We live in a small place, so there aren't many options. Do you guys think it would be okay to keep them in the same room? Cornwallis is fat and healthy and I don't want him to get sick, although the new snake does appear to be in perfect health. I appreciate the help.
 
Why don't you just give him a live pink? I'd try a live, then alternate with FT. Were the pinks you offered HOT, like 104F? Try dunking one in boiling water for a second before offering it to him.
 
Yeah, we might have to do that. The live pink, I mean. I really didn't want to, because I feel so bad for the poor mouse (I'm a big sissy, I know), but of course I will do it if we have to. The hot pink's a good idea too. Thanks for the suggestions. Hopefully we can get him up and eating soon, so we can work on having him be less terrified when we hold him.
 
If you don't want to move him due to the quarantine why don't you just cover his cage so that he can't see out for a little? That should reduce his stress and you won't have to risk any of your snakes getting sick.....

You could combine that with Naci's tips of a super hot pink, maybe brained too. Then you don't have to worry about the live feeding.
 
Just thought you folks might like an update on how Rivet (the rosy who wouldn't eat) is doing. We tried a really hot pink, cutting the pink, doing the zombie dance, etc...and he still wouldn't eat anything. I was beginning to think that we'd have to break down and get a few live pinks somewhere, when Adam suggested we try to feed him in his tank. Previously, we'd been placing him a cardboard box to eat like we do with Cornwallis. He was always super freaked out and tried to get away; it's obvious that he hasn't had much human interaction and he's terrified of us.

So anyway, I got a super hot pink and did the little zombie dance in front of his hide...and after a minute or so he struck it like lightning and pulled back into his hide. Trouble is, we were so elated that after a few minutes we picked up his hide to see how he was doing. He hadn't swallowed it yet and as soon as he saw us he spit it out and wouldn't touch it again. We felt like idiots. Tonight, I tried again. I dangled the mouse in front of his little aspen hole and he grabbed it lickety split and pulled it underneath the aspen with him. We're going to leave him totally alone until tomorrow, and then check to make sure he actually ate it. I'm a bit concerned about him swallowing some aspen, but at this point I'm just glad he's doing better.

Thanks for all the advice, folks. Fingers crossed....
 
So we've been able to get Rivet to eat twice, but now we've come up against a new problem, or at least it seems like a problem. He will only eat in his tank. I wouldn't care too much about this, but he's on aspen and he always seems to end up swallowing bits of it along with the mouse. I know this isn't good for him. He will only eat in his tank with very minimal, disruption...I just tried to feed him again in the feeding box, and he wouldn't have it. He wouldn't eat after I put him back in his tank, either. I guess he was too annoyed by that point. This little guy is just a ball of frustrations so far....is it very bad for him to swallow bits of his aspen? Should I not worry about it for now, and just concentrate on taming him down?
 
Is there any way for you to build a hide with a floor on it that can be placed in his tank? I have a hide which opens from above and is closed at the bottom; I layer the aspen really thick in Ambrose's viv so that it gets buried under the substrate. Just the hole at the top pokes out from the surface of the shavings. There isn't any aspen inside of it, so if he eats in there he can't ingest any.

Good luck with your little guy! Ambrose is having some feeding troubles right now as well. Silly Rosy's.
 
Try feeding a live and cover the tank. If he is eating live, try feeding him live for a while, then try pre-killed. If he won't take the prekilled, just try feeding live until he is big enough to handle double pinks. You could offer him first a live, then a VERY fresh pre killed.

Or, you could also try scenting the f/t pink. Tuna juice, lizards, toads? Not sure what rosies naturally eat, but it's worth a try, I think.
 
I take it the rosy boa is a baby still.

Small home, hide, out of the way of traffic. Try a deli cup, brained food, overnight?

I have had three rosys of different locale and all didnt eat like I was told. One was live pinks only as an adult and she ate f/t for me right away and much bigger sized food items too. The other ate only mouse and ended up eating anything I offered him. The other was a meany, but not here.

Check you temps, leave the handling to once you get the boa to eat for you. Keep trying!

Good Luck!
PJ
 
Thanks for the encouragement, PJ. He actually has eaten f/t twice, the problem now is that he'll only eat in his tank, and he ends up swallowing the aspen that gets stuck to the mouse. And yes, he's about a year old, still a baby. He's been a right pain in the youknowwhat so far, too.
 
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