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Shedding problem. Please Help!

Nanci said:
So you put the water inside the shed, which is actually the outside, and it went through the outside to the inside.
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Yes the inside-out would be the outside-in if the skin was still on the snake.

Nanci said:
The Goretex gowns are waterproof. I hate the paper gowns.
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I will have to remember that if I am able to go back to work. I just might have to inform the girl that took over ordering for me when I left. Luckily, she is a friend of mine.
 
OK I am just experiencing my first shed.. Its amazing
Snake has gone through blue stage and i notices a grey "cap" on its head
This was not from previous shed but just from the latest.
I just found an incomplete piece... headpiece (transparant piece design wise between a balaclava and a burka [as it has the eyes covered as well])

Now about an inch down from his neck he is still in his old skin...it actualy looks like the stuffing is coming out of him.
Now i "got a piece between my fingers" but it does not seem "pullable"

How long before competion / when should I start thinking about giving another bath

As long as the peel comes of as far as the dead tail end I am happy
 
Well
When i got my snake it had remnants of a previous shed ... and several previous sheds on its tail its about to loose

I bathed the snake..all of his body peel came off
I kept bathing to loosen the umph layers of tail skin..but that is going to nbe a lost cause

The snake was on two pinkies by its previous owner. Weight wise it should have been on hoppers...age wise ...it should long have been on hoppers i figure
With my 3 feeds it went from that to fuzzy + pink .

It went blue last week (I have no idea how long ago his previous shed started) Head piece + eye thingies came off its wearing the rest of its burka still

Now , Allah and Mohammed willing...how long before the rest of the Burka comes off Mohammed should be around the age of 6 .

Seriously
How long shoudl it take without issues..and when should I considder another bath
 
Thats right I forgot about his tail. I would go ahead and soak him. Is he the one that also doesn't like the humid hide? Knock on wood I have only had a couple bad shedders and what I did with them is as soon as I noticed that they were getting ready to shed they would go swimming every day to every other day till they shed. Obviously, not feeding during this time. Then if they had skin left over I would take a wet towel and make them slither through that until it comes off. Often times squeezing pretty good so they would have to inch their way through like an inch worm. I continue to soak before each shed until they gave me 3 sheds with out help.
 
What is that with the not feeding?
Just because of the handling...as mine did not refuse at all
Mine had his feed 48 hours ago

I have a shed aid spray... it does not help on the tail anuymor though...thats a lost cause

So I can bathe as soon as he sheds....that does not interfere with the process
And humid hide...no thats not me ...there is another case around here of "tailing"
How, and how humid..do you keep the hide?
 
CentricMalteser said:
gaining of water through mouth is rehydrating the living cells, in this case, the new skin, as the old skin will not be able to absorb this or process it,

and skin is waterproof, otherwise if not, each time snakey went in water bowl, he would just inflate with water (due to laws of pressure etc), similarly so would a humans hand in water,

but it doesn't, hence when you have a shower, apart from the water absorbed by osmosis, it stays on your skin until you dry it with a towel
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If you stayed in water for a really long time you actually can get water drunk and it does destroy the cells because of osmosis.
While the water permiability of snake skin is lower the skin is still water permeable

PLUS many arid landscape reptiles have adapted for skin water absorption,
dew collection, mist collection think of the horny toads! And although keratin SCALES are waterproof there is still skin between the scales, anyone with a fat snake know that :3
Science!






@desire
an easy way to help a shed come off, take a plasic container (with air holes) and put some crumpled moist (just moist not sopping!) paper towels inside, then close the snake in it for about 20-30 mins or more if needed, it might not even take that long! The skin should just slide off with your fingers after he comes out of the tub. Dont worry too much! Stuck shed really only becomes an issue if its been there for more than a few days and can effect blood flow or air circulation to the skin surface

let us know how it goes!
 
desiredbard said:
What is that with the not feeding?
Just because of the handling...as mine did not refuse at all
Mine had his feed 48 hours ago

I have a shed aid spray... it does not help on the tail anuymor though...thats a lost cause

So I can bathe as soon as he sheds....that does not interfere with the process
And humid hide...no thats not me ...there is another case around here of "tailing"
How, and how humid..do you keep the hide?
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Yeah the no feeding thing is just because of the handling thing. Many have noticed that some snake regurge when they are in the shedding process. I have always fed mine with out a problem but if you need to be soaking then you don't want them to get upset with food in their tummy.

No you can bath whenever. It will help even if there are just a few pieces stuck.

I have pretty much used a tupperware tub with moss in it but I have only used moist hides a few times. So hopefully someone who has more experience in that area can be of more insight for us.
 
Dorgrim said:
@desire
an easy way to help a shed come off, take a plasic container (with air holes) and put some crumpled moist (just moist not sopping!) paper towels inside, then close the snake in it for about 20-30 mins or more if needed, it might not even take that long! The skin should just slide off with your fingers after he comes out of the tub. Dont worry too much! Stuck shed really only becomes an issue if its been there for more than a few days and can effect blood flow or air circulation to the skin surface

let us know how it goes!
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The poor thing has had really bad sheds. Thats why OP is so concerned.
 
cmalchow said:
The poor thing has had really bad sheds. Thats why OP is so concerned.
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Same here... I removed 6 layers of the "tail" and there are still more.
Safe to say skin is as good as dead.

I started bathing as soon as i got this poor fecker and only just had the first shed while in my posession...so i had no idea what visual to expect.

The Blue was ok ..thats properly described
Then when curled up it was like its skinn was misbehaving and discolourments


I just hunted him out of his aspen again...he is not happy with that but if have two more pieces of hide..... weird enough .. the combined pieces of skin + the bit still remaining ...are bigger than the snake...
Bit the reverse idea of a condom ..which is never long enough ;)


But seriously.
"normally" how many pieces of hide do you end up with 1 2 3 or more.
 
:roflmao: Yeah that is very normal. The skin stretches so it is going to be a good amount longer than the snake. Which is why it is not recommended to measure and snake by the shed. Unlike the condom a snakes shed makes it seem so much BIGGER than it really is. :roflmao:
 
cmalchow said:
:roflmao: Yeah that is very normal. The skin stretches so it is going to be a good amount longer than the snake. Which is why it is not recommended to measure and snake by the shed. Unlike the condom a snakes shed makes it seem so much BIGGER than it really is. :roflmao:
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And unlike the condom a snake skin does not come with a serial number at the end
 
Oh this could go on all day :rolleyes: but I forgot the pieces question. Ideally, he will start shedding in one piece. Until he recovers from his poor past you are probably going to see him shedding in 2 maybe 3 pieces.
 
cmalchow said:
Oh this could go on all day :rolleyes: but I forgot the pieces question. Ideally, he will start shedding in one piece. Until he recovers from his poor past you are probably going to see him shedding in 2 maybe 3 pieces.
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Ah your like the snake...you dont bite on a silly bait
Wowo so idealy the head piece would be attached.....
This is the first time i actually saw that part of the shedded skin...its awesome

Well untill he finally looses its tail we will defo be talking pieces anyway I think
(If the tail has not dropped in another two/three shed i am going t have him checked out anyways
 
desiredbard said:
Ah your like the snake...you dont bite on a silly bait
Wowo so idealy the head piece would be attached.....
This is the first time i actually saw that part of the shedded skin...its awesome

Well untill he finally looses its tail we will defo be talking pieces anyway I think
(If the tail has not dropped in another two/three shed i am going t have him checked out anyways
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I had to refrain because I was so going to talk about ridges too. It took everything I had to not.

But yes he should shed from nose to tail tip or in his case nose to tail stub. At the same time it is not uncommon for the pieces to get broken either so thats why we do recommend looking for eye caps and tail tips.

BTW You are going to have to post pictures when he is all healed up with a stubby tail. If he were mine I would be tempted to name him Manx after the Manx cat.
 
ow Manx ...good one, better than Long John Slither
What surprises me at the moment..and I had seen it on another cornsnake here. That "body has different shades of brown and orange " than the head part .. AFTER shedding.
 
I sympathize! I have a snow corn who I think went into blue a few days ago, and I'm freaking out waiting for her to shed. I also got a bit of substrate soaking wet by accident when I first think she was going into blue, and there was no way I was leaving it in there that wet. So I probably annoyed her endlessly getting it out. She hissed at me today when I tried to get her out of the substrate so I could give her a short missing. Now I just realized she's still a little damp, and right under a heating light, so now I'm freaking out about her getting fried!

Good luck with the rough shed. I'm sure it will be fine. Plenty of snakes have a rough shed every once in a while, or else there wouldn't be so many experienced people with advice.

If snakes could talk, I bet ours would complain to each other about how overly paranoid we are :)
 
Well I got him on reptile virtamines as well
I took him into my pet store where they are all reptile lovers .
And they all agreed a two year old Should be thicker and longer... And I even got ponted out the signs of him being underweight/malnourished.
I skipped the hopper stage and went for weened ...dusted in vitamine powder.
(Since the last feed he gained 4 gr already ... slightly less than 50% of the food offered to him)
It took him a while to get it down...but he did not burst or regurge...and had a satisfactory bulge afterwards.
Hopefully his next shed is going to be Better too
 
Oh I glad that he is doing good. Thanks for the update. Keeping my fingers crossed for good shed next time.
 
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