Snake Trap

[FunkyRes]

You can set a board line - but in my experience, look for the illegal garbage dumps others have left.
Also - while woods may seem like a good place for snakes, you'll have much better luck in clearings than in woods. Woods are great for amphibians though.

 

[tricksterpup]

Lets see:

7 wild snake bites, 3 infected

Bitten by Flame, and before I had him, other captive snakes, and have yet to get infected by them.

Snakes in the wild aren't eating mice that have been raised in plastic bins at TMF, they are eating mice that have been running all around, getting dirty and contracting diseases/germs etc. This makes the snakes more likely to transmit the diseases to you.

I figured a more detailed response would get the point across, but it's common sense.

Are you smoking Crack?? This is totally False information.. This is not scientific fact but you had dirty hands. As with any bite wash your hands, it makes no difference if its wild caught or kept at home. Please think before you post and stop spreading scary rumors. This why people are afraid of snakes because of stupid beliefs like this.

 

[tricksterpup]

I thought about a sheet of tin, placed so that part gets the FL sun and part of it stays in shade...I think I'll do that. I also like the bottle idea. No need to purchase a trap, it seems.
Nick

No, you are on the right idea, try the tin or a board and you should be fine. Actually professional herpers use the board method for surveys. They lay them down for a day or 2 and then come back and count what is underneath them.

 

[FunkyRes]

Are you smoking Crack?? This is totally False information.

I have to agree.
I have been bitten by many many many wild snakes - from garters to kings to gophers.
The only infection I ever suffered as a result of field herping was from the rusty nail I stepped on.

 

[Drewby07]

That was what I was trying to point out with my reply to him/her.

 

[patm1313]

Are you smoking Crack?? This is totally False information.. This is not scientific fact but you had dirty hands. As with any bite wash your hands, it makes no difference if its wild caught or kept at home. Please think before you post and stop spreading scary rumors. This why people are afraid of snakes because of stupid beliefs like this.

Wait how do you know? :uhoh:

I'll let you believe what you want, and I'm not spreading rumors. People are afraid of snakes for many reasons, but i have never heard of a person being afraid of snakes because of the risk of infection...

 

[tricksterpup]

Wait how do you know? :uhoh:

I'll let you believe what you want, and I'm not spreading rumors. People are afraid of snakes for many reasons, but i have never heard of a person being afraid of snakes because of the risk of infection...

Seriously, you have been spouting nothing but BAD information here on this board from the get go.

Trust me on this, i know what I am talking about when it deals with herps. I am not a teenager who just got a snake this year. People are Terrified of Snake bites and due to infections or Venom. I do educational talks and work with people and animals on a daily basis. I Would stop posting until you can stop insulting people and spreading false information.

 

[kimbyra]

So... when use an inverted bottle to catch wild snakes, how do you release them from the bottle? Sorry, I'm not getting the mechanics.

 

[FunkyRes]

I do not recommend a trap that forbids escape. In some states (IE California) they are illegal without a scientific collection permit. With such traps, you MUST check them frequently, because the animal inside is literally at your mercy, it could become prey for another animal or die from exposure to the elements (heat / cold).

Please - if you are going to set something up, use a board or tin line that allows the animal to choose to leave if and when it wants to. Remember that setting up a board or tin line is legally considered littering if you do not have the permission of the land owner.

 

[tyflier]

Wait how do you know? :uhoh:

I'll let you believe what you want, and I'm not spreading rumors. People are afraid of snakes for many reasons, but i have never heard of a person being afraid of snakes because of the risk of infection...

Dude...people are afraid of snakes because there are a MILLION false rumours and wives tales about snakes...exactly like the one your talking about. They are afraid because of rampant, irrational, and ignorant information being given to them from supposedly informed individuals. And it's really crap to see it being spouted on a forum of this nature. If nothing else, as a member of this forum and the herp community at large, you should be VERY concerned about the accuracy of your statements as regards the safe handling of wild animals...either IN the wild or IN captivity.

I field herp. Do it all the time. Catch a LOT of really, really, really cool snakes. Haven't been tagged by a wild snake yet that has done any damage beyond a few pinpicks pf blood. It's because I'm careful. Do I expect to get tagged at some point? Sure...it's part of the game. I expect to get tagged simply because I handle snakes. Handling wild snakes is no more dangerous than handling captive snakes, providing you are positive of your identification and the safe and proper way to handle the snake.

Wash your wounds, you don't get infected. Period. It's got nothing to do with the personal hygiene of a wild snake vs. a captive snake, nor what form of nutrition it has recently used.

I'd bet money that your infected bites from wild snakes had more to do with dirty hands than the actual bite itself. And I'd win...

 

[patm1313]

Dude...people are afraid of snakes because there are a MILLION false rumours and wives tales about snakes...exactly like the one your talking about. They are afraid because of rampant, irrational, and ignorant information being given to them from supposedly informed individuals. And it's really crap to see it being spouted on a forum of this nature. If nothing else, as a member of this forum and the herp community at large, you should be VERY concerned about the accuracy of your statements as regards the safe handling of wild animals...either IN the wild or IN captivity.

I field herp. Do it all the time. Catch a LOT of really, really, really cool snakes. Haven't been tagged by a wild snake yet that has done any damage beyond a few pinpicks pf blood. It's because I'm careful. Do I expect to get tagged at some point? Sure...it's part of the game. I expect to get tagged simply because I handle snakes. Handling wild snakes is no more dangerous than handling captive snakes, providing you are positive of your identification and the safe and proper way to handle the snake.

Wash your wounds, you don't get infected. Period. It's got nothing to do with the personal hygiene of a wild snake vs. a captive snake, nor what form of nutrition it has recently used.

I'd bet money that your infected bites from wild snakes had more to do with dirty hands than the actual bite itself. And I'd win...

OK, I'll let you win this one. I never really have washed my hands after a wild snake bite, now that I think about it... :sidestep:

 

[tricksterpup]

OK, I'll let you win this one. I never really have washed my hands after a wild snake bite, now that I think about it... :sidestep:

Pat,
There is no winning on this you are a pre teen who talks like an adult here. Most your posts you give is BAD information. We have talked to you before about this. You insult people with out even thinking. You give bad information and say its actual fact. I have told you this before stop posting before you think. You are damaging your name and the hobby.
Heck people do not even realize you are under 15 years old here.
You have only had a snake for 8 months. This does not make you an expert in the herpetology field.

 

[patm1313]

Pat,
There is no winning on this you are a pre teen who talks like an adult here. Most your posts you give is BAD information. We have talked to you before about this. You insult people with out even thinking. You give bad information and say its actual fact. I have told you this before stop posting before you think. You are damaging your name and the hobby.
Heck people do not even realize you are under 15 years old here.
You have only had a snake for 8 months. This does not make you an expert in the herpetology field.

And did I say I was an expert? Now I'm pissed. How the heck am I supposed to talk? Should I just spell horribly and use bad grammar? Hw abut thes 4 U? IZ dat OK?

You're right, I've said some stupid things, and I've probably put out some wrong info. So what? Maybe you have forgotten how much worse it was when I first joined this forum. I had come from Yahoo answers. For the record, don't ever go to the reptile section of answers. You will be disgusted by the false info. I have changed a hell of a lot since I was first here.

The other day, I posted on Rob's thread about 2008 Prices, that was just plain stupid, and that was posting before I could think. That's a perfect example of posting before I thought. But that's the first time I've done that in months. Each time I post I make sure that I have thought it through. The other day it slipped my mind. Big deal, it was a mistake, and people are pissed at me now because of it, which is probably what I deserve.

Another thing. I went out on a limb and told people my age, possibly knowing that it would hurt my reputation. Now I get called a child by KJUN. It drives me mad. Nobody should care, but they do. Does it make my info false if you and I post the exact same thing, only because you're older? I don't think so, but apparently that is what others believe.

I don't have to be a an expert, or own twenty snakes to help someone out. Stop trying to "shut me down" just because of my age. If you find info that I have posted, that is false, then fine, go ahead and tell CS it's false. But don't bring my age into it, please.

-Pat

 

[FunkyRes]

I don't have to be a an expert, or own twenty snakes to help someone out.

You should at least know what you are talking about before you spout mis-information such as wild snake bites being 10 times more likely to cause an infection.

In that instance - you clearly didn't know what you were talking about.

Don't sweat it - internet memory is short. Refrain from doing it and people will forget, life will move on.

 

[diego]

Patm1313, please don't be pissed. This is a nice forum with ,typically, very nice people on it. I am also fairly new to the hobby. I don't give out much advice because I know that there are many people on here with MUCH more knowledge and experience than I. It is kind of exciting taking part in discussions here, but be humble. Let those with years of experience (and mistakes that they have learned from ) give the advice. " type less, read more " that is good advice.

 

[patm1313]

You should at least know what you are talking about before you spout mis-information such as wild snake bites being 10 times more likely to cause an infection.

In that instance - you clearly didn't know what you were talking about.

Don't sweat it - internet memory is short. Refrain from doing it and people will forget, life will move on.

Not really, people still know I'm 13, and to this day use it against me.

 

[Drewby07]

Pat -

The best thing you can do when in a forum like this is READ. That's why i put what I did under my name over there....You don't have to reply to every thread. You don't have to know it all. There are a LOT of people here who have had corn snakes for longer than you have been alive. Your age doesn't matter....though your experience does. They are experts.

If you absolutely MUST post, try a bit of humility as opposed to coming off as a know-it-all. Instead of saying "wild snake bites ARE 10 times more likely to cause an infection" say something like "I wonder if it's more likely for a bite from a wild snake to get infected".

 

[tyflier]

Not really, people still know I'm 13, and to this day use it against me.

That's baloney. I've had discussions with 13 and 14 year old kids on this forum and others that presented themselves as extremely knowledgeable, polite and willing to learn from anyone. That makes them fantastic editions to this hobby regardless of their age. And it earns my respect, and I'm quite sure the respect of many others here, regardless of their age. Your attitude is your biggest enemy, not your age.

Some of the most knowledgable people I have met on this forum have been under 18. You know why that is? Because they read, they research, and they listen when someone gives them good advice.

If, after you were corrected on your false statements, you had simply said, "You're right. I wasn't thinking"...that would have been the end of it.

But instead, you went on, defending yourself, and continued to present yourself as if you were correct and everyone else was wrong. Thusly, you were treated with a bit of harshness. C'est la vie. That's what happens when you are arrogant in your own ignorance. That's got nothing to do with your age and EVERYTHING to do with your attitude.

 

[Epi_Les_Paul]

You guys are right about Pat. I was reading and it is somewhat misleading.

Pat:
Its not your age buddy. Its how you present yourself. Its better to be known as a kid than an ignorant kid IMO. If you would simply say you were wrong instead of fighting it out (as tyflier stated) then none of this stuff would happen. Dust it off your shoulders and learn from your mistakes, no sweat.

Everyone:
He is just a kid as you guys said. So instead of beating him for what he's doing why not give him a slap on the hand? Just my two cents... But who am I? Hehe

 

[norm]

{The angry mob lowers their pitchforks}