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Those pet shops make me sooo mad!!!

KRIZ

KRIZ

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I went down to a different pet shop than my usual one to buy supplies for Silas ( mice, substrate etc.) And when I walked into the reptile room, i was stunned. THey were housing 11 corn snakes in a viv smaller than mine. And 10 Ball pythons in one the same size. The snakes hardly had enough room to move, they all looked so sad. :realhot: THen in another viv, they had a adult burm, in a viv so small that he had to be coiled up many time to fit. They also had 5 brb's in a viv, it was terrible. :mad: The one I usually go to keeps one snake in a viv(or two when breeding), and all the viv's are huge!

The shop that i wen't to this week was called jollyes, And i was wonering if anybody has heard of them and if they are always so cruel to animals.

What do you guys recommend i do, Should i report them to someone?
I felt really bad for the snakes. :(

If anybody else has had any experiences like this, what did you do? :awcrap:


THanks a lot
KRIZ
 
I would definatly report them , there is no excuse for treating animals that way . 11 corns in 1 viv? if i ever saw that you can bet however ran that shop would be getting a peice of my mind . some people honestly
 
Unfortunately, you see that a lot in pet stores where there is no one who really knows anything about snakes and all they care about is making money. I would report it to the local animal protection group, if there is one.
 
When I was back in Australia last month visiting family I dropped into a reptile specialty place and was also shocked to see how they were kept. Overcrowding was definately not an issue as they were generally one per terrarium but on a wall of 30 or so vivs, just about all of them had run out of water. There was an Olive Python going number 2's which is what initially alerted me to it. It was just feces, no urates and the consistency of cat poop. Seeing that made me look at the water bowl (totally dry) and then look at the others (mostly dry)...terrible. I allerted the owner and he said they'll get onto it tonight after hours...that was terrible in my book. These are temperate forrest dwellers (mostly Morelia, childrens pythons, Olives, Costals) and can survive a little dry spell but in captivity we have a responsability to our animals and in a shop they have an enormous responsibility to set the right example. I went to another place that had a baby Childrens Python in a viv that had regurged a mouse and it had been left in there so long that it looked mummified, I told that owner about it and he didn't seem bothered...go figure. Makes me want to rescue them all!
 
i would definitely report them right away.

i was recently in my local (one and only) pet store and they had three corns together, no hides, dirty water and poop all over the place. it was terrible.

11 corns??? i can't imagine. :realhot: those poor little guys!!
 
Do you want a direct number for the rspca? or if you don't want to make the call email me the address and i'll do it.

That is sick and totaly un-responsable, to the degree it makes me physically sick. :crying:
 
Me and my son went into a local pet store two weeks ago and they had a large boa in the same viv as a hatchling cornsnake. There was no water, hides or anything.

So, I looked around some more and I seen lizard cages piled up with feces, dead crickets, no water etc. Some pet stores just don't care!
 
definately report them... I had a similar experience last month and I reported them. I hope this place gets shut down.
 
Missing eyes

:mad:

There is a Petco near me that had a corn neonate that still had old skin over its eyes because it hadn't shed well. I pointed it out to the ass't manager so they would keep a watch on it. When I went back in a few days later that same snake was dead in its cage and missing both eyes. I was furious! When I said something to the clerk, she tried to tell me that the crickets in the cage (crickets in with snakes??) will eat anything. So a couple crickets ganged up on a baby snake and sucked out its eyes? I'm quite sure that some idiot working there tried to pull the skin off the eyes and killed it, but I can't prove it. Anybody know anything about crickets killing snakes?
 
hey kriz.
i noticed your from london, whats the address of this jollyes?

i live in harlow but work in enfield, i would like to take a visit to this particular store your talking about?
thanx
:D
 
Pet stores

Ah I've seen so many pet stores like that maybe not as bad but there is always people in a petstore where they will bs their way through your questions which is actually kind of funny but sad that these are the people taking care of the animals. Although there is the bad pet store, there are good ones as well which we can't forget. From experience I know that space is a HUGE issue with pet shops and when they get an order in and we basically set up a enclosure for whatever we have coming in making sure we meet the animals needs and sometimes as many as six corn hatchings(not neonates :) ) may be put in one 20 gallon aquarium for a short amount of time. Although I dont agree with this thats how the business goes and you'll see that everywhere. But I hope that you do call them in as what they are doing should be reported. Your right, animals should not be treated that way.
 
KristyS i do the viv's for my local shop and i agree with you, sometimes 4-8 hatchlings in a viv is a necessaty, but only for 48 hours max (thats the shops policy anyway), then they go 2 in a viv untill sold or being kept for breeding stock, which i think is good as a few other shops localy can't do that as they havn't the room.
 
dionythicus said:
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There is a Petco near me that had a corn neonate that still had old skin over its eyes because it hadn't shed well. I pointed it out to the ass't manager so they would keep a watch on it. When I went back in a few days later that same snake was dead in its cage and missing both eyes. I was furious! When I said something to the clerk, she tried to tell me that the crickets in the cage (crickets in with snakes??) will eat anything. So a couple crickets ganged up on a baby snake and sucked out its eyes? I'm quite sure that some idiot working there tried to pull the skin off the eyes and killed it, but I can't prove it. Anybody know anything about crickets killing snakes?
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I knew people who housed a leopard gecko and would just throw in a handful of large crickets (the gecko was just a couple of weeks old), and never removed the live one the next day. If crickets (especialy the big ones) are left in the cage for a few days without food or something to suck juice out of, they will attack your pet. After a few days, the people who owned the leo were shocked to see that the crickets ate through its stomache somehow, and I have heard other reports of geckos dying because of cricket attakcks. That is why you never get cricketes larger than your gecko can handle , and never put more crickets than your gecko can handle in the cage, and always remove the live ones within a day. Now as for the sanke, I highly doubt the crickets would just go for the eyes....if the snake was small enough, they probably would just go for the body. But crickets are nasty little guys when they are starved and dehydrated...who knows.
 
Luckily the local pet store where I live has one main guy who takes care of the reptiles. And he's really expierianced with snakes. I think all the snakes they sell are from his collection. he has all types. But anyway, I saw a petco with 2 cal kings in a tank. I thought king snakes where canibalistic, they where babies however. . but this seemed wrong to me...??
Was it?
 
personally i wouldn't house kings together, but some pet shops do. My local doesnt, they house the young upto 2-2.5ft in a 20-12-12inch viv and the adultd are in a 3.5ft long 18" wide and high viv, again individually. Saying that they never have more then 4 king's in anyway, so there is enough room to do it.
 
These are all just reinforcing the reasoning behind my trying to get a grant to open my own pet shop! Maybe people will see how animals are SUPPOSED to be taken care of and quit buying them from the non caring money hungry conglomerates. ?sp?
I also think these pet shops are showing new owners the wrong care practices and not knowing better or researching the animals they are buying they go home and take care of them the same as the pet stores. SAD!!!! :mad:
 
Missy said:
hey kriz.
i noticed your from london, whats the address of this jollyes?

i live in harlow but work in enfield, i would like to take a visit to this particular store your talking about?
thanx
:D
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I am not sure the exact address, it is in the yellow pages on page 1113 at the back. It is crews hill, enfield.

The telephone number is in the yellow pages too.

Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread for being so supportive :p
 
KRIZ said:
I am not sure the exact address, it is in the yellow pages on page 1113 at the back. It is crews hill, enfield.

The telephone number is in the yellow pages too.

Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread for being so supportive :p
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haha kriz, thanx for that, i pass that way every day.
crews hill is where i bought my missy 8 years ago, who unfortunately is not with us anymore, but that place was a dog hole, if its the one im thinking of its closed down!? :shrugs: :shrugs: crews hill, where all the nurseries is??

if its not by any nurseries, is it called Aquatics, if so then that would be where i got my male from. Aquatics is on the corner of a busy street with tons of traffic lights, yes?
 
JTGoff69 said:
These are all just reinforcing the reasoning behind my trying to get a grant to open my own pet shop! Maybe people will see how animals are SUPPOSED to be taken care of and quit buying them from the non caring money hungry conglomerates. ?sp?
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JT, a friend of mine and myself were interested in this as well! Have you had any luck with the grants? We're in a deadlock on what to do. Maybe we could open up a shop (I'm willing to relocate)! :wavey:
 
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