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Thoughts on the backgrounds of Ultra based corns...

chris68

chris68

Arundel Reptiles
First off all this info can be found online; it just takes some digging around, so altho this subject of been discussed at length more than once, here is the story as best I can recall it from the years (lol sad I know) spent asking and discussing the "Ultra" gene...

The story goes that the original Ultras were a project of 2, maybe 3 people in the community...They had said they bred "an unusual" corn to a gray rat snake...whether or not it was a "White Oak" (afaik a locality-based look and not a "morph") gray or a more ugly one ;) i don't recall, *nor do I recall anyone ever saying "ultra's" were a product of the first breeding(s) or a product of crossing back the F1's*...This story was quickly followed by "It was also bred to a corn snake"...The very first picture i can remember seeing of an "ultra" corn snake was posted in a picture forum on KSdotcom by a PA breeder named Jeff Yohe...As I remember it was a very red, frosty-ish (?) unusual looking corn, that, per his opinion, was a corn cross...I do not recall where he got it from, or if he even said...

With that being said a few thoughts...If Ultra and Amel in corns works like we've seen it to, would it also work in conjunction with the amel gene in rat snakes, which are not compatible with the amel in corns?...And if it doesn't (which in theory it shouldn't) did it originate from this "unusual corn", and are there two original lines of "Ultra" based snakes?

Any thoughts and comments welcome, and again, this is how I remember it from way too much time online ;)
 
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This was also discussed at length here a few years ago (I'll try and find the URL to the original discussion). Don't remember any particular conclusion being reached by talking about it. The originator couldn't say catagorically one way or the other at that time, so everyone else was just trying to figure it out.

Last I saw of a discussion was a couple of years ago, where someone was running breeding tests on White Oak Phase Grey Rats to try and recover the Ultra gene. Hadn't managed it at that time. Haven't heard anything on the project since, but then I'm not a morph technician and I haven't really been looking.
 
Last I saw of a discussion was a couple of years ago, where someone was running breeding tests on White Oak Phase Grey Rats to try and recover the Ultra gene
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I don't remember if anything came about with that, or who was even involved :shrugs:
 
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