And I have two types of very different looking hatchlings. I am 90% certain which is which. I know what Ultramel charcoals look like when they grow up but looking at the hatchlings the two types definitely are going to look nothing alike when they grow up. Which is why I was getting frustrated with you telling me to look in the first place I had already looked when I first decided to get my pair years ago. And I highly doubt I am the first to ever produce ultra charcoals.