unknown genetics gripe & weird statistics

[Darcpixie]

Hypo and ultramel bred together produce normals. I'm confused why we're linking them? Time to re read for the 8th time.

 

[Darcpixie]

So either the Hypo Lav het anery is an Ultra lav het anery, or your snow stripe is a hypo snow stripe. Those are really the only options.

I do vote that the butter breeding took last year, so that source of confusion should stop.

/ends brain hurting

 

[Susan]

Since you seem to have some confusion, with the breedings that took place (w/re. to Butter Stripe, etc.), here is a likely scenario:

Creamsicle Stripe female was bred to the Butter Stripe and to the Hypo Lavender. Resulting Hatchlings were Amel Stripes.
Thus, it was the Butter Stripe who was the father, of those hatchlings, and the Hypo Lavender male, who was also bred to her, just missed the window of fertilizing any eggs.
That means that the Hypo Lavender could not have been proven to be het Stripe and would explain why there weren't any Striped hatchlings, this year, when the Snow Stripe female was bred to the Hypo Lavender.

With the male Hypo Lavender not being het Stripe (but proven to be het Anery), you produced hatchlings (last year & this year) of a morph that would be expected...
Hypo Lavender het Anery x Ultramel(?) Anery = Hypo type and Hypo type Anery hatchlings.
Hypo Lavender het Anery x Snow Stripe (homo Hypo?) = Hypo type and Hypo type Anery hatchlings (which are het Stripe).

I can relate.
No human is perfect though and, even with the best (with whatever they are best at), can make mistakes.

I'm going to have to agree with this scenario considering the results... the Ultramel anery is actually a ghost, the snow stripe is het or homo hypo, the butter stripe bred the cream stripe last year and there was a human error in the record keeping (it just takes one time when you put them together and didn't write it down, then switched mates and forgot about the first unobserved mating which may have even taken place a month or more prior).

Genetics can be confusing, and you do upon occasion get things that you don't expect, but the rules of genetics always apply and the answers are there even if you have to admit to errors on your part. I have a small clutch of eggs currently incubating that I can't, with all honesty, say who exactly the father is. I never witnessed a single mating, I think I put another male with her once several months ago, and she arrived as a proven breeder so there is always the possibility of retained sperm from last year. And the genetics of all the males are similar, but I can at least make a better guess as to the father depending upon what hatches out as each either has or is missing one of several genes. Of course, the female has yet to be proven to carry one of those genes...

 

[cobained]

Hypo and ultramel bred together produce normals. I'm confused why we're linking them? Time to re read for the 8th time.

Linked because I apparently can't tell the difference visually, with all the variation in the colors of both morphs overlapping. I guess I thought the tell-tale thing with ultramel aneries was the super blue eyes, but apparently ghosts can have those too, and these also have the blue "eye shadow" which I didn't associate with ghosts previously. I know for sure all the introductions last year were observed, especially with the butter since he was so small compared to the girls, and I do have photo-evidence of him with the ultramel anery/ghost female, but whatever...I'm going to stop worrying about that and just consider her a ghost until proven otherwise.

I also talked to the breeder who said he does remember the hypo lav male and that he was produced from het parents, so very unlikely to carry ultra, so I'll stick with calling these babies pretty blue-eyed ghosts and hypos (het opal stripe!).

Thanks everyone for your responses!