unusual pattern

[RobbiesCornField]

The photos aren't the best and I did ask for others, and if you would reference this thread, hybrids can come in many shapes and forms and depending upon the % of corn snake, can be somewhat confusing. The snake in question reminds me of a hybrid I've seen before. There was either some type of milksnake and/or thayeri in the mix. Someone on kingsnake was selling siblings from the same clutch under various names, some not mentioning the fact that they were hybrids.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77762&highlight=thayeri

I remember those! Haha. I do agree that it does look a bit like a toned down pueblacorn, or a pueblacorn with a higher corn percentage than pueblan.
To me, the bold side color you mentioned earlier on this particular one looks like it might have come from the camera flash.
It wouldn't surprise me if it did turn out to be a hybrid, but I can also see how it could be a perfectly normal corn. Even referencing the pattern, Zorro just showed us that even a pure bred corn can have an odd pattern.

 

[zorro]

Even referencing the pattern, Zorro just showed us that even a pure bred corn can have an odd pattern.

The anery and the snow that I posted include in their immediate family Ultras and ultramels, is that pure corns? The originator of the Ultra gene says "NO".
Just food for thought.
John

 

[RobbiesCornField]

The anery and the snow that I posted include in their immediate family Ultras and ultramels, is that pure corns? The originator of the Ultra gene says "NO".
Just food for thought.
John

Well that just chucks a big hole in my theory! LOL.

 

[hissylover]

Beautiful snakes!! Love the patterns.

 

[zorro]

Well that just chucks a big hole in my theory! LOL.

I think you just have to find a trustworthy breeder who will tell you what the snakes backgrounds are and make your own mind up what you like and don't like. There are some that will not tell you, but I can count breeders that have been in this business that I trust, a few for decades, on two hands. Newer breeders like me have to earn that trust by being honest and stand behind all of our snakes.
John
Did I get off topic????????????????????:shrugs:

 

[RobbiesCornField]

I think you just have to find a trustworthy breeder who will tell you what the snakes backgrounds are and make your own mind up what you like and don't like. There are some that will not tell you, but I can count breeders that have been in this business for decades and that I trust on two hands. Newer breeders like me have to earn that trust by being honest and stand behind all of our snakes.
John
Did I get off topic????????????????????:shrugs:

Susan started it! So it's not your fault at all. And I'll agree that all new breeders do have to earn trust and respect. This is going to be my first year trying to build my own name for myself, and I know it's not going to be easy. There are many wonderful breeders out there, but only a few are truly excellent.

 

[Kevin S.]

For what it's worth, Harry's corn doesn't look like a hybrid to me. I've kept a few hybrids and have had an avid interest in them for years, so I think it's safe to say I've seen about as many of them as the next guy. While the snake in question does have a unique look to it, nothing jumps out at me as an indication of mixed ancestry. Keep in mind he's in England, so that may play a part. There are several corns I've seen on here from keepers in Europe that look noticeably different from our own lines. I've also noticed that the best aztecs and zigzags (at least in my opinion) seem to be in Canada for some reason-Petruga and PikaBun posted some pictures recently that illustrate this well. So I'd say it's definitely a unique-looking snake, but my vote is "pure" corn.