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beaniebopps

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Hi my female has laid unexpected eggs. I am not new to breeding and bred her sucessfully last year and had 27 hatchlings. However this year she was not brumated nor was she in contact with a male!

I have included a pic - obviously the small yellow egss are unfertilised. But are the white ones fertile? Could she have retained sperm from last year?

Also what are the chances of survival. They could have been laid anytime the last 2 days. I have sold my incubator and hatchlings rack but could sort something out if they were likely to survive.

Any thoughts?
 

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Hi my female has laid unexpected eggs. I am not new to breeding and bred her sucessfully last year and had 27 hatchlings. However this year she was not brumated nor was she in contact with a male!

I have included a pic - obviously the small yellow egss are unfertilised. But are the white ones fertile? Could she have retained sperm from last year?

Also what are the chances of survival. They could have been laid anytime the last 2 days. I have sold my incubator and hatchlings rack but could sort something out if they were likely to survive.

Any thoughts?
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I'm no expert, but here are some thoughts until the experts come along.

Yes, your snake could - in fact, obviously DID - retain sperm from last year.
Yes, the white ones could be fertile. Their chances of survival would be just the same as eggs laid with breeding this season. That said, they look very dehydrated. A formal incubator isn't an absolute requirement, but if you hope to save those eggs they need to be hydrated pronto. I'd set up a plastic bin with some damp sphagnum or vermiculite and get them in there as fast as possible. You might try a search for rehydrating eggs.

As for chances of survival after dehydration, I've read of eggs being very resilient. I'm sure people who have experienced this will be along soon.
Best of luck.
 
Hi there. For starters, brumation is in no way necessary for successful breeding - I've been breeding for many years without.

Yes, she could have retained sperm from last year and you might be able to save the good-looking eggs. Get them in an incubator ASAP and give it a whirl. I had an unexpected clutch last year that were as bad and most of them plumped back up with the humidity in the egg container, and hatched successfully.

Good luck!
 
Well they've been in verminculite with damp kitchen towels over them in a round sealed tub at 82F for the last 4 hours or so. So far no plumping out but I guess it will take longer than that. Problem is I'm due to do a big move in September (hence why I didnt breed this year) and have no idea what I'm going to do if they do hatch out now. As it is I may have to get ny sister to look after the adults for a year till I find a permanent house!
 
Well, if you really don't want the hatchlings, there is nothing wrong with simply putting the eggs in the trash.
 
I faced the EXACT same situation earlier this season. You need to get a tupperware and put some substrate into it. Hatchrite is good, but DO NOT add water to it. You can use Vermiculite, or even organic soil if need be. I have also heard of people using perlite or even sphagnum moss. Whatever the case may be, make sure that you add enough water to it that it clumps when you pinch it, but it does NOT drip. If it drips, it is too wet. Bury your eggs about 1/2 way in the substrate. Make sure not to flip or shake the eggs in any way (some people mark the top so they don;t shift them accidently). Because the eggs are so dehydrated, you will probably want to keep the temps a bit lower than usual so they have some time to absorb the water. Excessive heat will dehydrate them worse. In fact, Nanci suggested to me that I place a damp paper towel over the top of the eggs until they plump up which should happen in a few days. Until the eggs plump, I dovered the air holes in the tupperware so no moisture could escape. Once they plump, bring the temps up to the 82 degree F mark, open an air hole or two and hope for the best. Best wishes. My clutch that this happened to was originally a group of 12. I am now on day 55 in incubation and I am down to 6. If I can hatch even 4 or 5 of them healthy, I will feel like I did a decent job saving the eggs. Please keep us posted.

Rich
 
Susan said:
Well, if you really don't want the hatchlings, there is nothing wrong with simply putting the eggs in the trash.
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I had considered it, because they aren't exactly little snakies yet, but I just couldn't do it. I'd feel like I was betraying potential little ones... If they don't perk up soon I might have to though!
 
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