Vision Racks

[curiousL]

Vinny it does work pretty well. Just make sure you use locking wheels.
The new racks are made with a thicker hdpe, so they are slightly heavier.
The price includes shipping! :dancer: What I like the most is the fact that Iris containers are much easier to clean. :dancer:
Have you had any breeding action with your striped ghosts?
There has been a good bit of tail slapping here lately! :crazy02:
Have good one,
Tom :cheers:

Hi Tom! I don't think we have had any luck yet, but certainly working on it. We have been so super busy I am hoping Vinny has some snake time this weekend. We are doing feeding and cleaning tonight....the snakes are doing great, and BTW thank you for all your advice on this stuff it really helps us out a lot. Vinny is pretty educated on a lot of things, it is just nice to have some other people out there to give some great suggestions and offer advice ya know!!! Thanks again, take it easy Tom! Sounds like your Spring time there is starting out well with your "gang" of slithering friends... :crazy02:

 

[brownsfan222]

are the melamine racks able to be take apart? if they are just take out a few screws and put it upstairs and put it back together. lol there problem solved :grin01:

 

[Taceas]

To me, the Vision racks look cheap for what they charge for them. I also don't like the open-ness of the sides/back, as I would think it would let a lot of heat escape from it. I'm planning on moving my base of operations to our finished basement eventually. Even when the furnace is running, the basement is still 66-70* F, so I don't think those would work well at retaining heat as efficiently. I could be wrong, however. But they do look extremely top-heavy at any rate. Plus the 10 box tall one would probably be taller than me, which could be a pain in the butt if I have to get a stepstool to work.

I'm really excited with the new stuff Reptile Basics has planned for the end of this month. I've got one of the older style hatchling racks and I love it, although I was a bit disappointed that stacking them would be pretty hard without pins/fittings. But they seem to have listened to their customers and made a few changes for the better, which is what I always like to see.

I'm anxious to see their new CB-70 rack, as that's about the same dimensions I'm keeping my male adult corns in now. And am also anxious to see their cages they have planned. If its what I'm hoping, maybe a few of those for my adult females would be nice, if the size is right.

I really hope to be able to add a few more to my collection as I am now addicted to the ease of use racks present. While I still prefer my adults in individual display cages so I can enjoy their beauty while still being functional, the racks do come in handy for hatchlings and juvies, and also cuts down on the chance of escapes since these are the ones more prone to it.

 

[schilsound]

schilsound - to be come a distributor for Vision don't you have to purchase a very large quantity of thier products? I thought I heard that a long time ago. I thought it was something like 3k, 5k, or something like that. I guess that's not a large quantity just a large total but you know what I mean.

I am currently working part-time helping a large local breeder prep for the season, and he's going to set up a distributorship. This guy hosts shows, providing live and frozen rodents during the event, and Visions would be a great addition to his product line.

~grand bonus~ he's getting out of corns almost 9o% [moving into balls] so he's liquidating his stock after the season [score!] which means I am gonna have a top level pick of the whole schmeer. . .

Hence my pressing need for a storage soloution that is both very portable [I am gonna have way more adult corns way before I planned] and scaleable to fit different sizes since my needs are gonna shift in just a couple months.

 

[carol]

FWIW...
I made my last set of racks using these plans.
http://www.northeastsnakes.com/racks.htm
Jeram used plywood instead of the PVCX sheets. He modified them a bit to make each unit a "double wide". So far they are working well and were very affordable. They are light and not to bad to roll around. Long gone are the days when I could afford melamine.

 

[VinnyJ]

Tom - Aren't the Iris tubs the ones with the totally flat botoms and tight inside corners? Aren't they a little more difficult to clean? I like the Sterilite 1756 tubs because all the inside corners are rounded and easy to clean. I also like the fact that I can go to Target and buy them for $8 any time I need them.

brownsfan222 - My melamine rack is screwed and glued together so there is know way of taking it apart without destroying it. I'm trying to make my next rack something lighter or more modular.

Carol - Those are great plans. You've been holding out. Lol. You could easily add something on the sides and back to keep the heat in a little more if they were in a basement like Taceas mentioned. It wouldn't be to difficult to put something like that on wheels either.

 

[SnakeCreations]

Thanks!

FWIW...
I made my last set of racks using these plans.
http://www.northeastsnakes.com/racks.htm
Jeram used plywood instead of the PVCX sheets. He modified them a bit to make each unit a "double wide". So far they are working well and were very affordable. They are light and not to bad to roll around. Long gone are the days when I could afford melamine.

Carol -

Thanks for the link!! Those are perfect for what I'm looking to build. Easy and afforable - right in my time and money budget!

-Tonya

 

[Tom Tuttle]

Vinny the Iris tubs are flat but the corners aren't so tight that they are hard to clean. I get the cb 70 for $10 each in quantity.the dimension for that tub
is 33x17x6. Plenty of room for Adult BPs,or xxxl adult corns. :cheers:
I used to use Rubbermaid, or Serilite but they change designs so often.Each
time they change the heights are different. :shrugs:

 

[carol]

Carol - Those are great plans. You've been holding out. Lol. You could easily add something on the sides and back to keep the heat in a little more if they were in a basement like Taceas mentioned. It wouldn't be to difficult to put something like that on wheels either.

I kind of wanted to test it out a bit before I started endorsing it. Mine are on wheels and I just drop a large (8in?) sheet of flexwatt between the two bins so two bins share one tape. Even though there is about a two inch gap between the tape and the bin, it still gets plenty warm. Actually if I shut the window to my snake room it gets too warm so at the moment I need to keep the window open until I can get a helix. Jeram also made it a bit wider so the shelves can hold either one of the large 32 qt sterilites or two of the 15 qt. Right now I have two "double wides" set up. One has all large containers, the other has large on one side and two 15 qt on the other so I actually have 3 snakes on every shelf all sharing the same strip of heat tape in that rack. Maybe I'll post pics after I clean. LOL. I'm sure you can rig it for heat rope or make all kinds of modifications. Jeram wanted to make it so I could pull the 15 qts out of the side of the rack so I didn't have to deal with pulling one bin out to get to the one in the back. I told him not to sweat it because it's really no big deal for me to juggle them a bit. Besides, usually if I need to feed or clean one snake, the other needs to be done as well. :shrugs:

A big thanks to Jason (carl3) for putting those on the web!

 

[kimbyra]

Have you decided? If so, how are the vision racks working out?

 

[VinnyJ]

Yes. I have decided to build something. I really like the rack system that carol posted so right now I'm leaning towards that. My girlfriend and I will be going to the Daytona show in August so maybe I'll get a chance to see the Vision racks in person. With the kind of money I'd have to spend it's hard to decide on something like the Vision rack without seeing it or hearing overwhelming praise about it. It may be a great rack but I've decided not to be the Guinea pig. Lol.

 

[VinnyJ]

Update

I hadn't got around to building the racks I wanted... and then we went to the show in Daytona. Bad combination!!! Lol. We got to see the Vision racks in person and IMO they are sweet! We bought two racks and they actually can hook together to make it kind of one unit. The heat cable the racks use are specifically made for vision by Zoo Med. The cables are 50' long and they give you one per rack. I bought two per rack so I could have separate heat control for each rack top and bottom. Without tax the total was $1480 for the two racks, 44 tubs, and 4 50' heat cables. We were able to pay for them in FL and pick them up near our house to avoid tax and shipping.

 

[Lore]

That is a sight to be PROUD of. Looks great! :cheers:

 

[VinnyJ]

Thank you Lore. We also researched the aspen chip bedding at the Daytona show and decided to switch from paper towels and newspaper. It has dropped our cleaning time from 3 hours to 1/2 an hour. There is no such thing as spot cleaning news paper quickly. Lol.

 

[schilsound]

Those are the exact ones I am thinking of, Vinny- I think they're a much better value than the ones we were discussing previously- 21 avail. spaces for around $600 versus around $400 for 10 spaces; much better value.

They look great man- just great.

Congrats!

 

[VinnyJ]

Those are the exact ones I am thinking of, Vinny- I think they're a much better value than the ones we were discussing previously- 21 avail. spaces for around $600 versus around $400 for 10 spaces; much better value.

They look great man- just great.

Congrats!

Thank you. They're actually 22 spaces in each rack using the CB35 tubs. If you use the Sterilite 1756 tubs then it's a different rack and it only holds 10. The nice thing is you can put two tubs in each level like I have it and get 22 tubs in or you can turn the rack the other way and put one large CB70 tub (34"x17"x5.3")[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/font] in each level giving you 11.

 

[schilsound]

Another question [and I'm prettysure the answer is yes ;]

can you use the half-dimension sterilite 1754's for 4 tubs per level? If so then that would contain all 40 of my yearlings and such. . . .prety cool idea if it can . . .


at any rate it's a great design. . . congrats!

 

[Hypancistrus]

Vinny- did you have to wire the heat cable yourself?? I am inept at things like carpentry and electrical wiring, and so the "plug it in and go" method appeals to me. I've been following this thread, as I am currently researching racks for the spring.

Here's a summary of my results so far, for anyone interested:
Boaphile 5 Drawer Blanket- heat included, $67.80/snake w/ shipping
Boaphile 6- all of the above; $76.50/snake (oversize package = extra shipping)
Animal Plactics Economy rack, 6 tubs- heat included, open sides; $35.83/ snake
AP Sterlilite Rack, 7 tubs w/ heat- $55.35/ snake (w/ tubs, which you buy yourself @ Target)

And I get $46.89/snake for the Vision racks after buying your own tubs.

Sometimes it's very confusing, especially for us newbs. :shrugs: I wish there was one solid site that linked rack sites! In any case, I like the Boaphile 5 so far- plug it in and you're good to go. The price of the AP Economy appeals to me, but the open sides may stress the snakes a bit. Plus, I cannot figure out if it COMES with tubs, or if you buy those seperately. All the other AP's require you to have your own tubs, but they clearly state it in the info section. The economy rack does not state this. Anyone know for sure??

 

[curiousL]

Imo...

For those of you with wives and girlfriends, pass this on that these racks are absolutely fantastic, and try to convince them if you've already convinced yourselves to get one or two or more... :grin01: They are so much easier to move if needed and I tell you what with the purchase of the sani chips and these rack systems it will be so nice to have more time for us to spend enjoying the snakes instead of only having most of the time to maintain them i.e. cleaning, etc.

We love these racks and recommend them to anyone wanting to buy them! What a great product.

 

[VinnyJ]

Vinny- did you have to wire the heat cable yourself??

Yes you do have to wire it yourself but it's not complicated. You just route the heat cable through the provided grooves and then plug it in. There is no electrical "wiring" so to say.

And I get $46.89/snake for the Vision racks after buying your own tubs.

I'm not sure how you got that price/snake. There are 44 tubs in 2 racks for about $1600 if you had to pay tax. I guess it depends on what rack you're looking at though.

can you use the half-dimension sterilite 1754's for 4 tubs per level? If so then that would contain all 40 of my yearlings and such. . . .prety cool idea if it can . . .

No. That would have been cool. You only get 2 of the 1754's per level.

Carol and I were talking to the owner of Vision at the Anaheim show and he said they're trying to come up with a design that would give you 4 short bins per level on both sides of the rack for hatchlings. So that would give you 8 per level. 120 on a 15 shelf hatchling rack or 144 in an 18 shelf hatchling rack.