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What I Used Then; What I Use Now

Raiyne

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I thought it'd be interesting to see what changes we've all made in husbandry since we first started and why. I know when I researched what I'd need to keep a snake, I was overwhelmed with all the different choices in substrate, heating, thermometers and more. It might help new snake owners to see the specific kinds of husbandry we use and the reasons we use them.
I'll go first...

Substrate

What I used then: Cypress Mulch

What I use now: Aspen Bedding

Why:[/SIZE] This is something I changed when my first snake became ill. I was told by a friend that aspen bedding would be safer for a snake with a respiratory illness. When I was cleaning out the cypress mulch, I could see why. The cypress had a moderate amount of very fine dirt within it, which had covered the bottom and sides of the tank. I kept sneezing while cleaning it out because it was getting in my nose. The aspen bedding wasn't "dusty" and it costs less to boot.

Thermometers/Humidity Readers

What I used then: Stick-on Thermometers from Petco

What I use now: Digital Indoor/Outdoor Thermometer/Humidity Reader from Walmart

Why: Two stick-on thermometers and a humidity reader would cost me $16 at Petco. The digital one does the job of all three for a total of $8, is far more accurate, and makes cleaning the tank easier. Anything sticking to the tank makes it more difficult to wash.

Heating

What I used then: Under Tank Heater (UTH)

What I use now: Heat Lamp

Why: Both of these were the exact same in price, so cost was no factor. The UTH made cleaning more difficult. It also required me to use extra substrate (I chose reptile carpet underneath the bedding), so the snake wouldn't get burned if it burrowed down to the bottom of the tank. The biggest reason I switched though, was because the UTH was getting too hot.

If the tank gets too warm with the heat lamp, I adjust the angle on the lamp so it's farther away. A few minutes later, the temps go down a notch. It's easy. With the UTH, if the temps are too hot, I'm trying to add more substrate and propping the tank up with books. The change is much slower and it's an all around bigger hassle for me.

I suggest for those using a UTH that you don't attach it to the glass, but rather just let it rest on the table below the tank. That would make cleaning easier and propping the tank up would make a bigger difference.

Hides

What I used then: Cardboard

What I use now: Plastic

Why: It all comes down to cleaning. Cardboard can't be disinfected before introducing it to the viv. It also can't be cleaned when it gets soiled. I happen to be rather poor so I prefer makeshift hides to storebought. I do have one hide from Petco, but it's for shedding purposes rather than hiding. The fake bark offers my snake a rough texture that the plastic doesn't have.

Water Dish

What I used then: Ceramic Dish from Petco

What I use now: Tupperware

Why: Snakes grow. Tupperware is cheaper.

Things I Haven't Changed

Tank: I use a 20 gallon long critter tank with a sliding screen top that locks into place. I've never had any problems with it. It's been great.

Plastic Vines: I got these from Zamzows for about 6 dollars. They're easy to clean, they make the tank look nice, and they're great for climbing on or hiding under.






So that's what I've changed in the month since I started owning snakes. I'd love to see how more experienced owners have changed their setups over the years and the reasons for the changes. Please feel free to share!
 
Nice post, Raiyne. I'm sure this will be helpful to others as well. Curiously, you said

then: UTH
now: heat lamp

Did you accidentally mix those up?
 
LBoz said:
Nice post, Raiyne. I'm sure this will be helpful to others as well. Curiously, you said

then: UTH
now: heat lamp

Did you accidentally mix those up?

I know it sounds strange, but it's true. After I switched to a digital thermometer, I realized just how hot the UTH was getting. I tried adding more substrate and then propping the tank up to let more heat escape but the temps remained too high. The heat lamp keeps the temperatures just about perfect. I haven't had any problems using it, though it reduces the humidity in the tank a bit.

I still have the UTH. I've considered getting a thermostat for it. I'd love to hear why a UTH is better. If I'm missing something important, I can switch it around again pretty easily. I'd need to be careful with my new snake though... so far she's been a crazy burrower. The tank is kept on a glass table in the dining room. I was crawling underneath to plug something in and noticed she's on the very bottom of the tank right now, completely burried under about 3 inches of aspen bedding. If I switched back to the UTH, I'd need to replace the reptile carpet I tossed.
 
... I'd love to hear why a UTH is better. If I'm missing something important, I can switch it around again pretty easily.

Corns absorb heat through their bellies which in turn helps for better digestion. This is reason for some snakes that are just lying in the road or on rocks. Asphalt and rocks retain heat for extended amounts of time and the snakes are looking for heat.

I have UTHs
with a thermostat on the vivs . And the rest of my snakes are in racks. I love the rack systems!

Nice post by the way! :)
 
yes, like bekers said, corns need belly heat to digest properly, and yes, the heat lamps do suck out QUITE a bit of humidity.

with a UTH it's best to have it on the bottom of the tank, either stuck to it (which like the OP said) is a hassle for cleaning, or you could get a stone tile and put it on that, so that you can move it for cleaning/to another viv if you need to.

when using a thermostat to control the heat, you put the probe directly on the glass on the hottest spot (the middle) of the UTH. and then you set the thermostat to adjust the temperature to 83-88 (or whatever you keep the warm end at). this way, the UTH will never get hotter than the temp you set it to, therefor even if the snake burrows all the way down to the glass, it will not get burned. it's a lot easier for a snake to find a comfy temp with a UTH.
 
Thanks for all the info on the UTH! I'm glad I decided to keep it. The thing about keeping it at a low temp so the snake doesn't get burned is great. I found a thermostat by Zoomed for about $15 online. I'm hoping I can find one easily enough at a local store. When I get it set up again, I'll let you know how it goes.
 
the zoomed thermostat will definitely suffice, though it's not as good as a proportional one, like a helix or herpstat. but if you're on a budget the zoomed reptitemp 500R will work just fine!
 
Thats the one I just got...havent hooked it up yet though, waiting til feeding/viv cleaning day. I found it for $20 from Big Als Online. It usually sells for $40-50. The good thing about the ZooMed 500R is that you can control two heating sources with it! I am excited to use it! My heat lamp works perfectly but I wanted him to have under belly heat for proper digestion.
 
The good thing about the ZooMed 500R is that you can control two heating sources with it! I am excited to use it!

Maybe you know this and I apologize if you do, but others might be confused. The Zoomed 500R cannot control two heating elements independently. The two elements have to be identical and used the same way for it to work.

For example, if you have two identical UTH both attached the same way to a tank, then you're good to go.

What you don't want to do is to try and run a UTH and a heat lamp, for example, off one 500R. This would not work.

It should also be noted that if you're running identical heating elements the same way, then you can connect more than two by adding a strip outlet. So long as you don't exceed the maximum wattage (which is 500W for the Zoomed 500R) then it can power and control multiple heating elements (all identical, of course)
 
A lamp is going to cost more than a UTH in the long run. They don't last as long, burn out and have to be replaced.
The main thing is a lamp will use about 10 times as much energy as a UTH. A small UTH uses maybe 7-10 watts at full power. A lamp uses usually 60-75 watts minimum.

If the UTH is too hot, get a lamp dimmer for $10 at a hardware store or WalMart. Much easier than messing with books and extra reptile carpet, etc.
 
I found a thermostat by Zoomed for about $15 online. I'm hoping I can find one easily enough at a local store. When I get it set up again, I'll let you know how it goes.

Make sure that is a THERMOstat and not a RHEOstat. The ZooMed 500R thermostat usually goes for $22 plus shipping online. I've never seen it as low as $15, though their rheostat does sell for $15 online.

You probably won't find a thermostat locally. Petco used to carry the 500R for $40 but they cleared them out and don't sell them any more.
 
Maybe you know this and I apologize if you do, but others might be confused.

For example, if you have two identical UTH both attached the same way to a tank, then you're good to go.

What you don't want to do is to try and run a UTH and a heat lamp, for example, off one 500R. This would not work.

Im sorry..I wasnt very clear when I said that. I just meant that if you have two tanks that you could control two UTHs with one 500r. They, of course, would not be able to be set at different temps.
 
Im sorry..I wasnt very clear when I said that. I just meant that if you have two tanks that you could control two UTHs with one 500r. They, of course, would not be able to be set at different temps.

Exactly, I just didn't want others to possibly read your post and think that the 500R did more than it actually does.
 
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