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What is the strangest\meanest thing you have ever heard a snake hater say?

The manager where I work is married to a man who seems to get real pleasure out of killing all kinds of animals. Once while on the road somewhere he saw a rattlesnake in the road. Well he got out and cut it's head off, and it's rattle. When she asked him why he felt the need to do that, he said something to the effect that you have to kill those things when you see them. It's always hard for me to not say anything when she shares stories about her husband killing animals.
 
Arcanefate said:
I must say, I have many people around me that hate my snakes for different reasons. It's okay, many people are afraid and they don't even know why. Most of them, when I ask, can't give me a definitive reason.

The only ones that really peeve me off, are the ones who make judgements on me as a person for the types of animals I own.

Case in point... and this is my favorite one by the way...
I know a few people who are Born Again Christians (let me make the disclaimer that not all Born Again Christians feel this way, but the ones I know do). They have made a few ridiculous claims previously to my boyfriend and myself about why then can and can't be friends with someone based on their religion.
The worst one was a friend I had in college who used to study with me. When he learned I had snakes and I loved them he refused to be my lab partner anymore and then proclaimed, "I cannot be friends with anyone who would take the devil into their own home and care/love him." Apparently his religion viewed the Bible literally in the sense that the snake which fooled Adam and Eve was the devil. Now the devil, who was in fact a snake (not just a depiction), is the cause of all mankind's suffering. Therefore my snake and all snakes are evil, but not just evil, THE evil (devil). So anyone who likes snakes or owns them is really owning a part of the devil, and a devil worshipper!
:devil01:
Since knowing this guy in college, I had two other Born Again Christians who agreed with him. One works with my boyfriend, and the other used to be a former band member. That band member, oddly enough, quit because the band did not share his religious views. Though, I am wondering if it is because he recently found out we own snakes.:dgrin:

I am a Christian... I've got snakes. Some people are wierd. Seems like you ran into a few.:shrugs:
No worries, I think the number of people who hate snakes is even and spread out amongst beliefs and cultures.
 
I am Christian as well, but this seems to be a particular point of view of the Born Again Christians that I have met.
 
People can be so retarded. I'm Christian too, but I have the ''Devil'' right in my very own room! OMG, NO WAY. I'M GONNA GO TO HELL. :)

My grandma who lives in Japan is afraid of even visiting our house in America because there's a snake in the house. When I asked her why she dislikes snakes, she said that it was because they look 'slimy'. But at least she's not biased only towards snakes. She doesn't like anything 'slimy', including lizards, frogs, newts, anything. I told her that's no reason to dislike anything, but she didn't listen. Hopeless.
 
I've had people say I'm crazy because I like snakes.. and most of my friends told me they won't be visiting my new apartment if I get one. silly people.
 
My wife watches kids during the day for a little extra money. Once a family had my wife watch there children for a week. On the second day after my wife was watching there kids there oldest talked about how cool it was to see my snakes. Mind you this was only thru the glass, i wont take the snakes out while other people's kids are over out of respect for them.

The kids parents hears that we got snakes. They said you got snakes in the house? I said yep sure do. They said don't you think you are endangering other peoples children. I said Nope, and told them how safely locked in there enclosures they where even demonstrated how the clips hold the lids on the tanks. They said what if one got out it would try to eat one of my kids. I assured them that both there kids where much to large to be considered a meal by even the largest of my snakes. They said well we don't want our kids around those snakes if you want to watch our kids you will have to get rid of them. I told them it was a pleasure for my wife, and myself to have there children around, but we where sorry that she couldn't continue to watch them any longer.

I wasn't mad at them, they where protecting there kids as far as they where concerned. Even though there was no threat. Funny thing is i have found more snakes outside in my yard since i moved in than i have in my entire collection. Wonder if they make there kids stay in the house all the time for fear of being eaten. :shrugs:
 
Arcanefate said:
I am Christian as well, but this seems to be a particular point of view of the Born Again Christians that I have met.

That is unfortunate... I am born again... but that is another topic in a different room :)


Yeah chibitamalove I have no problem when someone does not like reptiles or things slimey... I think I get bugged when people get all worked up that I have snakes acting like my corn is going to swollow their car and come after them.
 
Recently on a camping trip with my parents my mother told me with pure disgust on her face that I was weird.. What she meant I'm sure is Evil, but she's pretty devout Christian so could bring herself to call me that..

She, who thinks nothing of putting out cruel traps to kill mice that wander into her camper, said that after my wife, Who'd stayed home that trip, called to ask me what she should do about the mice, seems one of my mommy's was having babies..

My Mother asks why do you have mice? but stops mid sentence as realization hits her. She knows I keep a snake, which she is phobic of, and therefore hates them. That's when she said I was.. Weird.. She also told me I was mean.. I replied matter of factly, while my father watched with an amused look, that it was no different than the steers we used to raise for slaughter. She had no answer because she knew I am right :grin01:


Side note; I almost expected my father to start giggling. Fortunately for him he wasn't that drunk yet and had enough sense to stay out of it, otherwise he might have slept in the tent with me and my Daughter LOL!
 
Emanon said:
That is unfortunate... I am born again... but that is another topic in a different room :)
May I ask then, without trying in anyway to be rude, is this an actual part of your religion's teachings? Or is this just one of many "beliefs" that some people who are fanatical about religion have?

As I said before, I am not trying to be rude, and I am not making any statements of judgement towards Born again Christians. I am just curious. :)
 
I am a Christian and at times come into contact with people who think snakes are "evil" in respone to this idea, I wrote a blog on my mysapce Page, Here is the blog for anyone that would like to read it.

My MySpace Blog said:
As most people whom are reading this know, I have a couple snakes. OK, more like 50 or so, and about 70 snake eggs that are incubating. Quite a collection by some standards, and yet quite small by others. Many times when I am discussing the importance of snakes in the ecosystem, one argument comes up. That argument is that snakes are by definition EVIL and should therefore be killed. So, are snakes evil? I say no. This argument is inevitably given by Christians or at least by people who have some religious background, so I will use the Bible to refute this argument.


Are all snakes evil?
Exodus 4
1 Moses answered, "What if they do not believe me or listen to me and say, 'The LORD did not appear to you'?"
2 Then the LORD said to him, "What is that in your hand?"
"A staff," he replied.
3 The LORD said, "Throw it on the ground."
Moses threw it on the ground and it became a snake, and he ran from it. 4 Then the LORD said to him, "Reach out your hand and take it by the tail." So Moses reached out and took hold of the snake and it turned back into a staff in his hand. 5 "This," said the LORD, "is so that they may believe that the LORD, the God of their fathers the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob has appeared to you."

Exodus 7
10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the LORD commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. 11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts: 12 Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron's staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh's heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said.

So I pose this question, if all snakes are in fact evil incarnate, what about these two snakes? What about the snake that became of Moses staff and the snake that became of Aarons staff that ate the staffs of Egypt? So if all snakes are indeed evil, then the snakes that formed from Moses and Aarons staffs would be evil too. This is in fact not the case. There is no possible way that these two individual snakes are evil. Thus, it is safe to assume that not all snakes are evil.


Are snakes cursed?
Genesis 3
1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made.

14 So the LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, "Cursed are you above all the livestock and all the wild animals! You will crawl on your belly and you will eat dust all the days of your life. 15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring [a] and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
16 To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you."
17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. 18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. 19 By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

Yes God cursed snakes, but he also cursed man to work the ground for food, and he cursed the woman with pain in childbearing. So in fact all parties involved in the original sin are cursed.


Can snakes benefit us?
Numbers 21
4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea, [c] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, "Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the desert? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!"
6 Then the LORD sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, "We sinned when we spoke against the LORD and against you. Pray that the LORD will take the snakes away from us." So Moses prayed for the people.
8 The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived.


During the wonderings in the wilderness, many Israelites began to grumble and sin against God; he then allowed venomous snakes to come into the Israelite camp killing many Israelites. Moses prayed for the people and God responded. In order for healing, Moses made a snake of bronze and placed it atop a poll. Then the bitten Israelites merely had to raise their heads and look up to the snake to be healed. In this case we can see where a snake was used to benefit many people. Aside from the religious view, snakes play a vital role in the ecosystem. They keep many prey species in check. Snake venoms are being used to develop new and improved drugs to better fight cancers and other illnesses.


Not necessarily about snakes, but about reptiles in general.
Acts 10
9About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. 10He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

Though this does not directly refer to snakes I fell that it is relevant. In a vision Peter sees many items that were formerly considered unclean, including reptiles, for consumption before him, while a voice tells him to get up, kill and eat. If reptiles have been elevated to a clean enough status for consumption, we can safely assume that they are clean enough for having as pets.


One of my favorite verses
Matthew 7
9"Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake?

I would hope my dad would give me a snake before a fish.


Many people kill every snake they see on site. There is an old adage that says the only good snake is a dead snake. It is this mentality that I wish to overcome. Snakes were cursed by God, but he also created them and thus we should give them the respect they deserve.
 
mike17l said:
I am a Christian and at times come into contact with people who think snakes are "evil" in respone to this idea, I wrote a blog on my mysapce Page, Here is the blog for anyone that would like to read it.


THANKS FOR THIS!! It is bieng book marked for future refrences! :santa:
 
Arcanefate said:
May I ask then, without trying in anyway to be rude, is this an actual part of your religion's teachings? Or is this just one of many "beliefs" that some people who are fanatical about religion have?

As I said before, I am not trying to be rude, and I am not making any statements of judgement towards Born again Christians. I am just curious. :)

No, I am a Christian, and this is not a part of my religion's teachings. I have never been taught that snakes are evil by Sunday school teachers or clergy. Personally, I've never met anyone--at church or elsewhere--who actually thought that snakes were the devil.

To tell you the truth, I've heard the whole "Christians think the snake is the devil" argument more from NON Christians than from Christians. If one is a Christian, he believes the Bible. The Bible says that God made everything(including snakes) and God saw that it was good.

When I ask people why they are afraid of snakes, the response I get most is because they are slimey. I've converted more than one person simply by convincing him or her to touch a snake.

Back on topic, the meanest thing I ever heard a person say was at a cub scout campout. A little 7 year old boy said he was going to come over to my house and put my snake's head into a propane heater. I asked him why and he said because all snakes are poisonous. Yep, I did try to educate him, but he chose to believe what his daddy told him.
 
I got hit with a nice one today.

During lunch I was talking about our snakes and questions were being asked. One of my co-workers, and older man, said snake skins make nice boots. I just shot him a look, he started laughing and repeated himself. I replied "Know what? You would too. Your skin is old and tough. Would make a nice pair of boots."

Don't play with the bull, dude....you'll get the horns!
 
Arcanefate said:
May I ask then, without trying in anyway to be rude, is this an actual part of your religion's teachings? Or is this just one of many "beliefs" that some people who are fanatical about religion have?

As I said before, I am not trying to be rude, and I am not making any statements of judgement towards Born again Christians. I am just curious. :)


No worries, nope it is not taught anywhere in Christianity. Like stated above it is taken from Adam Eve and the serpent and mixed with people's fears. Hey it is their fear... not mine, if they have it no big deal. I think we get sensitive at times. I hate cats... big deal... not a cat person. Some people hate snakes... they are not snake people.

I think we often do harm to ourselves... let me explain... the tattoos with the snakes and the skulls and knives and such put off an image that snakes are evil and hardcore and mean and stuff like that. People give off that image and then others take that image in.

(((Theology ahead... warning)))
Being born again and using it as a term are kind of funny. Born again is not a religion, it is a term people use when they say that they died to their old self and have been born again with Christ. Not a religion, just a term, a phrase that many abuse, misuse, and have trashed with the televangelists... who by the way bug me too LOL.
I have been born again with Christ in my life but not in the ((insert southern accent)) I have been born again brother((accent off)) kind of way.

Make sense???
 
Emanon said:
No worries, nope it is not taught anywhere in Christianity. Like stated above it is taken from Adam Eve and the serpent and mixed with people's fears. Hey it is their fear... not mine, if they have it no big deal. I think we get sensitive at times. I hate cats... big deal... not a cat person. Some people hate snakes... they are not snake people.

I think we often do harm to ourselves... let me explain... the tattoos with the snakes and the skulls and knives and such put off an image that snakes are evil and hardcore and mean and stuff like that. People give off that image and then others take that image in.

(((Theology ahead... warning)))
Being born again and using it as a term are kind of funny. Born again is not a religion, it is a term people use when they say that they died to their old self and have been born again with Christ. Not a religion, just a term, a phrase that many abuse, misuse, and have trashed with the televangelists... who by the way bug me too LOL.
I have been born again with Christ in my life but not in the ((insert southern accent)) I have been born again brother((accent off)) kind of way.

Make sense???
Really?!?
By the way the people I knew always acted, it was a specific religion. Almost like a seclusive club. One that I wasn't good enough to belong to because I was merely..."Pffa, Catholic Christian" That their beliefs were stronger than mine because they were "born again". I always thought it was because they were of a specific teaching... like Christians, Catholic, Protestant, Nazarene, Lutheran, Born Again...etc.

Thank you for the explanation.

I guess it's a good thing I'm Agnostic now. ;)
 
The term Born Again became popular back when Jimmy Carter, who claimed to be a Born Again Christian, was president. A bit before your time. It seems not to be used so much any more because I haven't heard it in years--other than this thread. It originated in the Bible in a passage in which Jesus tells Nicodemus that if he wants to see the kingdom of God, he must be born again--of the flesh (first birth) and of the spirit (second birth).
 
I think it's funny that people would think snakes are "slimy" or "dirty", but then I go to people's houses and they let their cats and animals walk around on the tables and kitchen counters where they prepare food.... :puke01: Now THAT is repulsive! :rolleyes:
 
Pumilio said:
I think it's funny that people would think snakes are "slimy" or "dirty", but then I go to people's houses and they let their cats and animals walk around on the tables and kitchen counters where they prepare food.... :puke01: Now THAT is repulsive! :rolleyes:

We've got 2 cats but we dont let them walk around on the tables and counters. They KNOW that the counters are off limits. I tried putting Jimmy on the counter once as an expirement, and he got this ''look'' on his face and jumped right off. :grin01:
 
Where I live, pretty much everybody is pretty tolerant of snakes. All the neighborhood kids thinks my snow [Rose] is really cool, except one girl. But I don't care; she's a priss anyway. The only other person who doesn't like Rose is my friend's mom; but I don't blame her, I think a snake ate her pet rat once.
 
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