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will he get "stressed?" if i put him in a bigger tank already??
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sammythesnake
New member
I put my baby snake in a 40 gallon breeder fish tank one hide on each side and he was out exploring it every night looking for a way out i say go for it. he showed no sign of stress what so ever.
KJUN
New member
Usually the stress from a big tank is due to it being improperly set up OF the snake being stressed out at feeding time or fed in such a way that it doesn't "find" the food or feel comfortable staying (and eating) where you placed the food. If the set-up is correct, you could put a good feeder in a cage the size of a house, and it wouldn't get stressed. The only problem would be finding it come time to feed it.....lol.
I think this Old Wives' Tale is due to snakes that stop eating in a larger cage because the set-up was WRONG or people putting a poor feeder into a larger cage and then wondering why the poor feeders doesn't eat after they dig it out of the litter and throw it in a cup with the pink. The method of feeding is stressful - not the larger cage......OR something LIKE that is the origin of the myth. Just having a cage TOO LARGE isn't it!
KJ
patm1313
Pyromaniac
Well, they normally spend their time in a cozy place, not out in the open. It's only natural for them as they don't want to be eaten.
I moved my almost hatchling corn to a large 20 gallon large tank when he was little, with no effect on his behavior. I think that a worse worry is having him in too small of a tank. I would suggest using lots of hides that take up space in your tank, so that the little guy will feel secure. The only reason I can see adverse effects about moving to a larger tank is if their is nowhere to hide, then it will definetley be stressful. Think about it this way: If some giant were keeping you in a cave, wouldnt you want somewhere to hide from him?
-Patm1313 :dgrin:
patm1313
Pyromaniac
Agreed. About feeding. I have a 20g long, like stated in my last post, and it has aspen shavings as substrate. I'm a little bit of a spaz with my little guy, and take every precaution to keep him absolutley safe. I decided that once I got my snake moved into my larger tank, that I would keep my little 5 gallon tank. I put no subtrate in it, and placed it in my tank, on top of the substrate, and fed my corn in there. It has worked tremendously well for me, and I never have to worry about him escaping whilst feeding because there is the lid of the feeding tank, plus the lid of the cage that the feeding tank's in. I did this so that the snake could eat in his home, but not have to worry about ingesting substrate.
-Patm1313 :dgrin:
tricksterpup
I has nuttin to Say.
Do you actually know what you are talking about?? please, do your research and actually read Kathy Love's book.
patm1313
Pyromaniac
Yes. I have done my research. I had the same exact concern with my little corn. I have read Kathy Love's book. It's amazing :crazy02:
tricksterpup
I has nuttin to Say.
Then why are you spouting bad information?
patm1313
Pyromaniac
I'm not. This is getting a bit off topic. Sorry OP.
tricksterpup
I has nuttin to Say.
What?? This isn't really off topic, this about suitable cages for corn snakes be it large or small. You were the one who brought up small cages being stressful to corn snakes. Why do you think and where did you hear that small cages are stressful for corns?
Corny Noob
Proud Momma
I'm thinking maybe he means like putting a 4ft corn corn in a 5 gallon tank?...:shrugs: I hope.
patm1313
Pyromaniac
Yes. That's what I mean. I have heard several myths around reptiles, especially snakes, that a snake will not grow larger then it's enclosure. This is not true, and keeping a corn in to small of a tank can be damaging.
Please, if you have a rack sytem for hatchlings or adult breeders then it's all right. I'm not even coming close to saying that all hatchlings should be in 20g long tanks if that's what you thought I meant.
tricksterpup
I has nuttin to Say.
Then explain yourself when you post and don't give half information. This topic was about young corns. If you are saying that as the snake grows then give them a larger cage but please do not say its stressful for corns to live in a small cage. But remember, to some people a 20 gallon Long looks small for a corn and it isn't.
Roy Munson
New member
Like most aspects of corn husbandry, I don't think there are concrete "rules" regarding housing. Due to the number of hatchlings I usually have hanging around, I use relatively small containers to house them. But I don't do this for space-saving reasons only. It's much easier to monitor the snake's "output" and condition in a small container. A 10g hatchling in a 20 gallon tank full of aspen could regurge, and you may never find it, or find it too late. A small container also makes for a comfortable, familiar place for them to be fed-- and the limited space ensures that the prey item will be encountered. After their feeding-response and health are well established, all sorts of options can be safely pursued.
patm1313
Pyromaniac
That was one of the main reasons I was hesitant about putting such a tiny corn in a big tank. But I went ahead and did it anyway.
Roy Munson
New member
Isn't your snake still only 22g (or so)? I'm not saying that a large tank puts it at risk, but a 22g corn isn't "out of the woods" yet. You can't say "I guess I've done everything right" based on the fact that you got an 8g hatchling to 22g. Know what I mean?
patm1313
Pyromaniac
Isn't your snake still only 22g (or so)? I'm not saying that a large tank puts it at risk, but a 22g corn isn't "out of the woods" yet. You can't say "I guess I've done everything right" based on the fact that you got an 8g hatchling to 22g. Know what I mean?
Yep, he's definetley not out of the woods yet. I feel that my corn is totally out of the woods from escaping my room when he is too big to get into the tiny holes in my heating vent. And nope, I can't really say I have done anything right, but I really really hope so.