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Some People... (rant!)

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I'm relatively new here and do not have the whole system figured out yet it took me 1/2 the day to figure out how to unsubscribe to this post, and so all I knew is that you were listed somewhere as a mod. So with that info, I was trying to obey the hints that were being provided that this convo should be wrapping up. I just want to clear my name that no I did not have a tantrum and leave this forum and I only stopped with the debating in this thread and unsubscribed to this thread (to keep the temptation to respond away )b/c as I said the knowledge I had said a mod of some sort was hinting that this convo should wrap.
 
KJUN said:
Actually, that isn't necessarily so. I've known LPN and RN (I'll leave out the joke of what those stand for since you would likely take it as an offense if I'm reading your tones in the other posts correctly) that couldn't do basic math with fractions. I've taught a lot of students that managed to pass the exam and practice as a nurse. Not all of them are people I'd trust to put an adhesive bandage on a SPLINTER much less choose a healthy "alternative" diet.

Now, you may be the best LPN in the world. Kudos if you are. I'm not attacking you or LPNs in any capacity - I'm just sick at the statement that because someone is a (insert job here) they could not make a job-related error. That's B.S. The argument that you can't make a dietary mistake BECAUSE you happen to be an LPN (especially a mistake about yourself where you may be biased) is not only potentiality invalid, but it is humorous. Also, saying you stopped growing in mass at 16 is not normal, even if it is not necessarily unhealthy. Of course, I know lots of people that weight less at 30 than they did at 16, but that is because they were overweight at 16 and are eating better in later years.
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Thats alot of poop right there :)

And to whoever said you have to supplement when being vegan is uneducated. The only pill I take is birth control and all of my levels (blood test yearly) is perfect :)
 
wade said:
The reason cows have so many stomachs and produce so much waste is that cellulose is very hard to digest.
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Rabbits have night feces. Basically, they run the vegetation through once, at the end of the GI tract bacteria help break down the cellulose in a special "pouch," they pass the mix as a green/sticky pellet, they EAT the green "night feces," and pass it through the GI tract a second time to be finished digested and absorbed. The second pass produced the brown rabbit pellets we are used to seeing. The green, sticky, pellets are the equivalent to a bull's or cow's cud.

Next time to see someone kiss a bunny on the nose, remember where it had its nose and what it was eating just a few short hours before!
 
Dinah, I missed the beginning of this but you’ve got grit girl, you’ll do fine. Don’t worry too much about getting along with everyone, some of the folks here argue about everything. If you don’t want to participate just skip over those individuals. There are several people here as nice as me.

As for the YBH, look at her man, anyone can see she is perfect in every way. She has healthy all over her.
 
KJ not to argue, but diseases like Rickets was once a real problem in young developing children of all colors in the US before vitamin d was added to milks, bread, and cereals and still is a major disease in Asia and Africa. The truth is people tend to get most of their calcium these days through dairy products which lack magnesium meaning the body is not absorbing appropriate amounts of the calcium they ingest. However, foods like leafy green vegetables and fruits tend to be high in both magnesium and calcium allowing the body to absorb what it is taking in.

My mom sent me an interesting article today on calcium of all things because both of my children are lactose intolerant and foods that contain calcium are important around here. Heres the link http://www.dfwnetmall.com/veg/milk.htm.

This article also discusses how too much animal protein depletes are bodies calcium stores where with plant proteins this does not happen. I still feel a diet can be just as balanced with or without meat, but compelling evidence shows a diet full of too much meat is still worse than say a diet full of too many veggies especially for women.
 
yellowbellyhippy said:
And to whoever said you have to supplement when being vegan is uneducated. The only pill I take is birth control and all of my levels (blood test yearly) is perfect :)
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The comment was made that vegetarians (or was it vegans?) had a diet with MORE vitamins in it implying that this meant the diet was healthier. Sorry, I don't know who made it. It was a borderline "strawman argument," so I didn't even bother to look at the name of the poster since it wasn't anything beneficial to remember.

My post was to point out that it was ONLY healthier if non-vegetarians did not get enough. This isn't try. Having EXTRA doesn't mean it is healthier. Either diet - if healthy - does not require vitamin supplements. Using vitamins to say vegetarians are healthier is invalid, so your reply doesn't pertain to that portion of this thread.
 
danielle said:
KJ not to argue, but diseases like Rickets was once a real problem in young developing children of all colors in the US before vitamin d was added to milks, bread, and cereals and still is a major disease in Asia and Africa. The truth is people tend to get most of their calcium these days through dairy products which lack magnesium meaning the body is not absorbing appropriate amounts of the calcium they ingest. However, foods like leafy green vegetables and fruits tend to be high in both magnesium and calcium allowing the body to absorb what it is taking in.

My mom sent me an interesting article today on calcium of all things because both of my children are lactose intolerant and foods that contain calcium are important around here. Heres the link http://www.dfwnetmall.com/veg/milk.htm.

This article also discusses how too much animal protein depletes are bodies calcium stores where with plant proteins this does not happen. I still feel a diet can be just as balanced with or without meat, but compelling evidence shows a diet full of too much meat is still worse than say a diet full of too many veggies especially for women.
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My levels are fine, my kids don't have rickets. Veggie vit. d fortified cheese :) And, 15 mins of sunshine a day!
I love you Wade!
 
KJUN said:
The comment was made that vegetarians (or was it vegans?) had a diet with MORE vitamins in it implying that this meant the diet was healthier. Sorry, I don't know who made it. It was a borderline "strawman argument," so I didn't even bother to look at the name of the poster since it wasn't anything beneficial to remember.

My post was to point out that it was ONLY healthier if non-vegetarians did not get enough. This isn't try. Having EXTRA doesn't mean it is healthier. Either diet - if healthy - does not require vitamin supplements. Using vitamins to say vegetarians are healthier is invalid, so your reply doesn't pertain to that portion of this thread.
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Ack! My bad! Sorry and thank you!
 
I'm allowed to express an opinion, right? This has to be the least interesting controversial discussion ever. I need to consider besting it.
 
danielle said:
diseases like Rickets was once a real problem in young developing children
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The truth is people tend to get most of their calcium these days through dairy products which lack magnesium meaning the body is not absorbing appropriate amounts of the calcium they ingest.
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Go back and look over my first post again. I wasn't discussing if we get enough Calcium or if we absorb enough calcium. I was discussing Vit-D hormone, required levels, and sources ONLY; the implication was in an otherwise healthy person (although that wasn't stated out-and-out). Not that I disagree with anything you stated, but look at the other contributing factors to Rickets and similar deficiency diseases to realize why I still stand by my original statements about Vit-D solely.
 
I've also been the same weight since I was 15 and am pretty sure I'm still healthy. Weight doesn't equal growth especially for a woman. In our teens we have more muscle which weighs more than fat and less fat. As we age we all tend to loose muscle mass hence saggy parts, and gain fat which weighs less. So not to gain weight is not abnormal at all and doesn't in anyway indicate whether we have grown or not:)
 
I just joined a pyramid-marketed health drink I'm now selling. If anyone wants to really get healthy, user-comment me and I'll not only make you healthy, but RICH!
 
KJUN said:
I've known LPN and RN (I'll leave out the joke of what those stand for since you would likely take it as an offense if I'm reading your tones in the other posts correctly)
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Ok, mister....them's fightin' words. I'm an RN...bring it! What does that stand for?? :nyah:
 
wade said:
As for the YBH, look at her man, anyone can see she is perfect in every way. She has healthy all over her.
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I'd rather look at her that her man, but I respect that your interests may differ from mine, Wade.
 
danielle said:
I've also been the same weight since I was 15 and am pretty sure I'm still healthy. Weight doesn't equal growth especially for a woman. In our teens we have more muscle which weighs more than fat and less fat. As we age we all tend to loose muscle mass hence saggy parts, and gain fat which weighs less. So not to gain weight is not abnormal at all and doesn't in anyway indicate whether we have grown or not:)
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:bowdown: you are educated ....it shows.
 
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