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Nine teens charged with bullying in teen's suicide

medusacoils

Mr. Enigma!
What do you think of this? A lot of people are blaming the school teachers and administration for not doing enough to prevent this.

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ection-with-bullying-suicide-of-15-year-old/1

Nine teens, including three juveniles, have been charged in connection with the death of a 15-year-old Massachusetts girls who committed suicide after weeks of bullying on Facebook and at her high school.

A few more links:

http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma..._of_suspect_charges_in_mass_bullying_suicide/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/03/29/charged-bullying-massachusetts-teen-killed/

http://wbztv.com/wireapnewsma/List.of.suspects.2.1597619.html

Wayne
 
God Wayne, I saw the picture of that girl on the article and that was about all I could handle. I don't want to think about this right now.
 
This is the girl who jumped off the school building...?

Ok well im 14 and i make fun of alot of people ( sounds so bad) even my friends and mostly we just joke around and i know alot of kids who make fun of people alot so when we make fun are intentions arn't really meant to hurt your fellings its more we just do it idk why for her to kill herself over it i bet theres was more then just getting made fun of she had friends so i think its deeper then bullying...
 
Without reading the article, my two cents are that I was bullied pretty severely in junior high and I got through it. Yes, the bullies were wrong, way wrong and share in the blame for what happened, but her parents should have done far more to protect her mental and emotional well being. She needed help. I don't think the bullying was the only problem in her life. Her parents should have been paying more attention to what was going on, including removing her from school until the school did something about the issue, filing police reports about the real and cyber bullying (maybe they did, again, I didn't read the article), getting their daughter counseling and getting an attorney to go after the school district and/or the parents of the other kids. Hindsight is 20/20, but I feel parents need to step in a give their kids better mental help to handle the pressure in these situations.
 
It's always a tragedy when a young person dies. Even more so when they feel so hopeless and alone that they take their own life.

But let's be realistic...kids are mean. Kids call names, insult, and instigate. It's part of growing up. Unless there was physical abuse from the kids being charged, I don't think it's right. Yea, they should be punished, but not charged criminally, unless there was actual physical abuse.

The school has a responsibility to protect it's students. If there was verbal abuse and harrassment going on during school hours and/or on school property, the school has some liability. I don't know how much as the first article posted really doesn't provide a whole lot of information.

And her parents have some responsibility. Kids don't just wake up and kill themselves one day without some signs, signals, or pleas, unless there is some serious[/] emotional disturbances. How many prior attempts were ignored? How many cries for help shrugged off? Again, I don't know as the article doesn't really say a whole lot about the facts.

It's a very sad situation.
 
Having suffered bullying as a pre-teen very badly, including it being up to the point where the teacher would allow the entire class to go off on a tangent of mocking me, but I wasn't allowed to respond at all, I know how emotionally devastating teasing of great magnitude can be. I didn't say anything to my mom, but she knew that I was unhappy for some reason.
And one day I snapped. Instead of violence against my person, I lashed out at those around me, and to my shame, injured several classmates. After that, Mom got the full story from me and chewed the principal and my teacher to verbal ribbons and then placed me in a new school.
If someone is 'sensitive' (as in feeling strongly, quickly, and deeply) bullying can rip their soul apart.
I'm glad the kids are being charged. They're learning that there are some serious real world consequences to harassment.
 
Charge 'em! It's time they learned that there are consequences that go along with their actions. Bullying should be no more acceptable than any other form of abuse.
 
Well in middle school I was bullied pretty bad. I still get a few Aholes but I find ways to deal with it. The gilr looked very pretty and I don't see why people have to act that way? It is really themselves that they hate but they choose to take it out on someone that is innocent and onfused as to why these big americans are being jackass's. It got passed jackass when they started screwing with her on facebook. I just think people that bully other people deserve to be locked in a box of angry Yellow Jackets. There is no reason to do it. Bully yourself in a mirror if you are lot unsure of yourself.
 
I think verbal abuse or cyber abuse can be every bit as damaging is physical abuse. Maybe even more so. I think the kids involved should absolutely held accountable. I think any adult that was aware of the situation and did not try to stop it should be held accountable as well.
 
The level of bullying I encountered included constant verbal harassment, being pushed under a moving schoolbus (which fortunately the wheels wound up on either side of me so I wasn't run over), and pushed down a flight of stairs. I could well believe, if my parents hadn't backed me up 100% & got me out of that school, that I could have ended up doing what this poor girl did. There were NO consequences for the adults around who saw it happening, and NO consequences for the kids who did it. It's about time there are consequences.
 
I agree with Dionythicus about the girls parents needing to have been more proactive, but that is just the beginning. I think they should have been at the school "shaking trees" until a solution was found, if the school wouldn't help them they should have gone to the district, the news, the police, social services and anyone else they could get a hold of. All in addition to getting the girl some professional help for her own well being. Remember the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

I also think that if you are going to require that kids attend school (and kids do need an education), then it is the schools job to also be proactive about keeping the kids safe. If the issue had been brought to the schools attention, then why were these kids still allowed to interact with her, once the problem became severe and chronic why wasn't the school trying to keep those kids away from her? Change up their schedules and put them in different classes, or send them to in school suspension, or monitor them in the hallways and at lunch.

And most of all what about the parents of the bully kids? I know that you cannot control everything your kids do, but I can assure you that if one of my kids was a bully, first they would be punished and spoken with about our families values regarding respecting people, but if that didn't help then I would do whatever it took to make that lesson crystal clear. If that meant that I had to attend school with them everyday and walk them from class to class to make sure that they were not torturing other people then that is what I would do. If they were posting mean things on other people's facebook page then my kids would not have the internet anymore. Being a parent is hard and you cannot control everything BUT it is important that you work really hard and that you and your family is a model of respect and kindness. Not every lesson that a parent tries to teach is going to be internalized, however I personally believe that being respectful to people and really to life in general should be a cornerstone of a families values and that all other rules come from there. Parents need to model respectful/kind behavior and they need to talk with their kids about how important it is and they need to be clear that treating people unkindly is not acceptable. At my house you are either respectful to all people or you have your Mom and Dad to answer to and I can assure you that if you are in a position to have to answer to me or my husband it will not be fun.

However I do not agree at all with tyflier (sorry nothing personal - and this is just an opinion so take it only as that) I do not think it is ok for kids to be mean. I don't care what kids might try to get away with. It is IMPORTANT that their parents, teachers and society in general do not just brush this off. Being mean is not ok and should not be considered acceptable behavior. Adults, especially parents and teachers should be models of appropriate behavior. And they do have a responsibility to address these kinds of issues.

The kind of people we raise our kids to be effects our society and our future, and if we tell kids through our example/actions/lack of actions that being mean and nasty will be overlooked and allowed then what does that say about the kind of society/future we will have. If we tell kids that it is ok to be cruel so long as you don't touch the person, then in the future you will have women and men who are verbally and emotionally abused as adults who accept it because the abuser didn't touch them. You will have abusers who think that so long as they don't touch you anything else they might do is fine. And society will be conditioned to ignore a persons suffering because after all they are not actually being touched so it is no big deal. In short allowing kids to torture other kids is just going to lead to a generation where being a sociopath is considered normal so long as you didn't physically hurt the other person

Everyone involved could have done more, and it is to be honest completely inexcusable (in my personal opinion) that they did not. Her parents needed to get her help a long time ago, the school cannot force kids to attend and then not properly supervise them while they are there, and the parents of bullies need to be involved to put a stop to this on their end.

The bottom line is that being a parent and raising kids is a HUGE job and it is a very important one. Either be prepared to do a good job, or don't have kids. I am so tired of people who have kids and then SLACK when it comes to raising them.
 
However I do not agree at all with tyflier (sorry nothing personal - and this is just an opinion so take it only as that)

Don't apologize, I do it all the time. :)
 
I think verbal abuse or cyber abuse can be every bit as damaging is physical abuse. Maybe even more so. I think the kids involved should absolutely held accountable. I think any adult that was aware of the situation and did not try to stop it should be held accountable as well.

Very true Wade. I agree! As some of you know, I'm the parent of a child with a disability. My daughter, in some ways, is normal as the next, but in a lot of ways she is very different. These differences in her mannerisms and behaviors makes her the target of bullying by many kids in her school and sometimes in our neighborhood. I have even seen and had to deal with it from adults who meet her for the first time in public. It's all very sad and disheartening.

A story like this really hits home for me. It concerns me because I am very aware that my daughter is sensitive to the ridicule of her peers and from others. I'm very concerned for her because I cannot be with her 24 hours a day. The only thing I can do is make the school aware of situations if I find out about them.

What really concerns me is how these situations are handled. I have tried dealing with a bullying situation myself, but found the other parent to be very protective of their own child and dismissive of the situation. This is why I try to allow the school to handle it. My problem is that I don't know how the school deals with it, or if they do it at all.

If you read this story, it has been discovered that some teachers and administrators where aware of what was going on with this little girl. Little was done to handle it or what was done was inconsistent from administrator to administrator. There were rules and guidelines adopted by the school, but they weren't followed.

On the radio station I listen to in the morning, this subject was brought up and the fact that some school administrators weren't being charged in this matter. Even though rules and guidelines were in place, but not followed. What do you think of this?

Wayne
 
CJ VIEW: Ok heres how i see it bullying can cause alot of things but it wont cause suicide.
If she was get teased to the point where she commits suicide i can 100% bet that she had been home crying and if it was really that bad i would have told my parents *im 14*.

2ndly how many of you could really commit suicide you have to be pushed to think break and TRUST ME theres things you can say to hurt people fellings but theres not that much... I've Bullied people i was grounded 4days ago cause a girl cried to her mom saying i called her B**** and a Wh*** and told mine its spring break and i was just hanging with here so when kids tease other kids know ive told kids to kill them self's and im not gonna get into this cause im a get FLAMED!

Also no kid should have criminal charges for some one eles killing them selves parents ignored the signs. I have a friend who brought in facebook post from someone who had been bullying her.. So its quite easy.. Shes very pretty i doubt she had no friends to back her up theres more to this then we know and the parents know not just bullying.
 
What really concerns me is how these situations are handled. I have tried dealing with a bullying situation myself, but found the other parent to be very protective of their own child and dismissive of the situation. This is why I try to allow the school to handle it. My problem is that I don't know how the school deals with it, or if they do it at all.

If you read this story, it has been discovered that some teachers and administrators where aware of what was going on with this little girl. Little was done to handle it or what was done was inconsistent from administrator to administrator. There were rules and guidelines adopted by the school, but they weren't followed.

On the radio station I listen to in the morning, this subject was brought up and the fact that some school administrators weren't being charged in this matter. Even though rules and guidelines were in place, but not followed. What do you think of this?

Wayne

Ok well like you said when i get in trouble by people my mom will always defend me to the edge of the earth but when i get home a diffrent story she wont let it show in front of people so i bet there are parents just like her in real life

SECONDLY the school really cant do that much they can suspend them they can exspel them but online iits a diffrent story snitching will make the teasing worse and worse therefore pushing her even closer to her edge. So i dont udnerstand what you want parents and school to do you cant rid them of all communication with the girl its virtually imposible theres always a way

AND now that i think about it if she had a face book im shur she had tons of friends and if they were bullying her on face book why would she repidelty get back on??? just dosnt make sense to me.
 
CJ VIEW: Ok heres how i see it bullying can cause alot of things but it wont cause suicide.
If she was get teased to the point where she commits suicide i can 100% bet that she had been home crying and if it was really that bad i would have told my parents *im 14*.

2ndly how many of you could really commit suicide you have to be pushed to think break and TRUST ME theres things you can say to hurt people fellings but theres not that much... I've Bullied people i was grounded 4days ago cause a girl cried to her mom saying i called her B**** and a Wh*** and told my Mom. Its spring break and i was just hanging with her. so when kids tease other kids i know they dont mean it.. ive told kids to kill them self's and im not gonna get into this cause im a getFLAMED!

Also no kid should have criminal charges for some one eles killing them selves parents ignored the signs. I have a friend who brought in facebook post from someone who had been bullying her.. So its quite easy.. Shes very pretty i doubt she had no friends to back her up theres more to this then we know and the parents know not just bullying.

my bad kinda spelled things wronge
 
Not all people close to committing suicide are laying around crying. Despair comes in many flavors. It can be quiet and subdued, or very obvious. While I never contemplated suicide, I did have the quiet type of despair from my bullying. And the result is that there are now several people nearly 30 years old who still have scars in the shape of my teeth, and I'm quite sure the other kid I stabbed in the arm with a pencil did not ever again harass someone to the extent that he harassed me.
 
CJ VIEW: Ok heres how i see it bullying can cause alot of things but it wont cause suicide.


I couldn't get passed this part of your post. How can you say that bullying can't lead to suicide? Imagine every day of you life, feeling threatened, teased or abused. Imagine feeling helpless and thinking that behavior was going to continue every day. It was never going to stop.

Eventually, its going to affect your school work, prevent you from going out into public, going to after school events, affect your sleeping and eating habits. At some point you are going to become severely depressed and think that this situation is never going to change. You begin to feel guilty, as if it's your fault. Maybe you start to believe the things that are even being said about you.

Suicide is very real in cases of bullying. Especially if you can't see any light at the end of the tunnel. Especially if no one is helping you.

Don't think it can't happen! It has happened before and will continue to happen until the problem is dealt with. As long as kids feel despair.

Wayne
 
The most recent suicide from bullying there was 2009.. NOT SAYING IT IS NOT IMPORTANT im saying 100,000's of kids are bullied regularly proably but 2 there commited suicide??... seems like theres more too me...
 
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