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How long till pinkies go bad on the counter?

John3:16

John3:16

Well this is me....
I totally stink at the search function.

I'm sure this has been covered in a thread, but the pinkies got left out last night.
It's been 9 hours, we should throw them out right?
 
Thanks!!!

How long can they be left out?
People say thaw on counter....people say hot water....its confusing for a noob.:)
 
Well, you should never refreeze. So thawing a pink only takes a few minutes, no matter how you do it. I like to put it in a cup of hot water, do something for a minute, then run the tap water as hot as it will go, stick the pink under it for a few seconds, then feed.
 
Thanks!!!!
What about fuzzies hoppers and adult mice?
Thanks for taking the time to respond..I'm sure there are threads on this...but I'm search challenged.....:nope:
 
Fuzzies thaw almost as fast as pinks. To thaw larger mice, I put them in a bowl and let hot tap water drip. After 10-15 minutes I feel the mouse to make sure it is completely thawed. It should be hot and pliable. I blot it dry on paper towel, fluffing up the fur. I would not refreeze any size mouse. That's why I have kingsnakes, for clean up!!
 
I have a 1 time re-freeze rule but it's very infrequent and I will only do it if they have been thawed for less than an hour at most, not 9 hours like your situation. I haven't had an issue doing this but corn snakes may be more fragile in that area as I am feeding pine snakes and black milk snakes which are more of your typical garbage disposal types :) And yes everyone should get a garbage disposal snake haha! All of mine are so it's shocking when I have to do a refreeze :eek1:
 
I actually fed my corn a pinkie that i refroze i think twice because I couldn't get him to eat for several days. He seemed fine and the pinkie still looked normal. But now I don't think I will do that again...
 
4 hours is the time limit. After four hours, your only recourse is to cook the pinkies or discard them. This is standard food safety as dictated by the USDA.

Here is a link to their site;
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/FactSheets/Danger_Zone/index.asp

I have also written about this topic a few times. Here are the links to those threads;
Post 28 http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101187&highlight=refreezing&page=3

Post 5 -This was is actually about refreezing pinkies-
http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96476&highlight=Refreezing

Happy reading! ;)

Wayne
 
I, personally, don't refreeze any after thawing. However, I don't think you can cite USDA best practices for animals.

For example, my dogs will find the rottenest piece of dead squirrel/bird/rabbit that has been rotting in the 105 degree Texas sun for days and proceed to eat it with no issues. I used to try and stop them but I gave up on that as they never had any adverse effects. On is 12 and the other is 8 and they are both going strong. They like to kill squirrels and eat them over a period of days and then bring the rotting carcass in the house for me. It's sweet.

Now, I can't say the same thing for snakes but I don't think you can use USDA practices for snakes when those practices are set for human digestive systems.

Snakes will obviously eat dead animals since that is what most of us feed them so I don't think it's too far fetched to say they will eat deat animals in the wild as well and probably have some sort of defense against the bacteria involved in decomposition.

Having said that, it would probably be better to just throw the mouse away just to be safe.
 
Oh and the USDA is full of crap when it comes to beef minimum cooking temps. I like my steak still mooing and eat it with a cold, red center that gets nowhere near the 145 degree minimum cooking temp. :)
 
quixoft said:
Oh and the USDA is full of crap when it comes to beef minimum cooking temps. I like my steak still mooing and eat it with a cold, red center that gets nowhere near the 145 degree minimum cooking temp. :)
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Mmm, I made hamburgers last week that were still frozen in the center! My finest work yet!!
 
quixoft said:
I, personally, don't refreeze any after thawing. However, I don't think you can cite USDA best practices for animals.

For example, my dogs will find the rottenest piece of dead squirrel/bird/rabbit that has been rotting in the 105 degree Texas sun for days and proceed to eat it with no issues. I used to try and stop them but I gave up on that as they never had any adverse effects. On is 12 and the other is 8 and they are both going strong. They like to kill squirrels and eat them over a period of days and then bring the rotting carcass in the house for me. It's sweet.

Now, I can't say the same thing for snakes but I don't think you can use USDA practices for snakes when those practices are set for human digestive systems.

Snakes will obviously eat dead animals since that is what most of us feed them so I don't think it's too far fetched to say they will eat deat animals in the wild as well and probably have some sort of defense against the bacteria involved in decomposition.

Having said that, it would probably be better to just throw the mouse away just to be safe.
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That's not a risk that I'm willing to take. Bacteria is a funny thing. Funny because most times it won't kill you, just make you wish you were dead.

Just because a snake will eat something that has gone past it expiration, doesn't mean that it won't suffer the ill effects of it and sadly it doesn't have a voice to tell you it's sick. :shrugs:

Wouldn't it be better to err on the side of caution. The food safety standard is common practice in the manufacture of all foods. Human or otherwise.

quixoft said:
Oh and the USDA is full of crap when it comes to beef minimum cooking temps. I like my steak still mooing and eat it with a cold, red center that gets nowhere near the 145 degree minimum cooking temp. :)
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I guarantee you will sing a different tune when you catch yourself a case of E-coli bacteria. I guarantee that it will be a very memorable experience, if you live through it. Most people who become infected with it wind up with a major case of the shyrts and fits, if you know what I mean?

Wayne
 
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