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Kids pulled from "snake home"

I had read about that, and the sad part is they are making a big deal about the owning of snakes, and not the child neglect.... "a neighbor called it 'creepy'" Oh grow up its a snake

and they way they said " some snakes getting up to 6 feet!" like it was crazy!? 6 feet is not a huge snake...now if one was over 9-10 feet...thats a bit big...but please...

Stuff like this makes me more furious at the news reporters and society than anything else.

This is why I teach scouting groups and schools about snakes...in the hopes that people will learn...snakes are not deadly vicious man eaters...slimy or creepy...
 
Well who knows what the real truth is... If they looked in my freezer I am pretty sure they are going to find quite a few dead rodents to.. Go figure... Sounds like in some way the people bit off more than they could chew, but it also sounds like in some ways the neighbours were way to snoopy and predisposed to hating serpents anyways...
 
TandJ said:
Well who knows what the real truth is... If they looked in my freezer I am pretty sure they are going to find quite a few dead rodents to.. Go figure... Sounds like in some way the people bit off more than they could chew, but it also sounds like in some ways the neighbours were way to snoopy and predisposed to hating serpents anyways...
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They said the house was inspected because a teacher smelled urine on one of the kids... reptiles have urates not urine, and it smells like poop does, not urine. If their youngest is a 3 year old... I'm sorry but couldn't the kid have just had an "accident"? What kind of teacher investigates the kid's household because they peed themselves?:shrugs:
 
Thank you Teddy! I was thinking the same thing! I mean seriously.

And having that many animals is only hoarding if you don't take care of them and keep getting more. If the animals were really in bad condition, then I see a problem. If they weren't, then I don't see what's wrong. And the people saying it's not safe for kids because "anything could happen"... pretty sure they meant just having kids in the same house as snakes. Newsflash! Snakes aren't mindless killing machines out to eat babies. Irresponsible owners put their kids in dangerous situations around snakes, good responsible people don't.

And the comment was pretty ill-informed. "It seems to me that these poor animals weor illigal sale" Pretty sure they meant "It seems to me that these poor animals were for illegal sales" Because, you know, ball pythons and leopard geckos are illegal to sell. >___>
 
Teddy Roosevelt said:
They said the house was inspected because a teacher smelled urine on one of the kids... reptiles have urates not urine, and it smells like poop does, not urine. If their youngest is a 3 year old... I'm sorry but couldn't the kid have just had an "accident"? What kind of teacher investigates the kid's household because they peed themselves?:shrugs:
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lexie, do you really seriously mean to tell me that you honestly thing urine smells like poop?

My sense of smell is terrible and I can tell them apart quite easily.

I think you may be exaggerating just a tad for effect. When you do that it takes from your credibility.
 
Teddy Roosevelt said:
They said the house was inspected because a teacher smelled urine on one of the kids... reptiles have urates not urine, and it smells like poop does, not urine. If their youngest is a 3 year old... I'm sorry but couldn't the kid have just had an "accident"? What kind of teacher investigates the kid's household because they peed themselves?:shrugs:
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I have known Many adults who have peed themselves.
 
The smell of fresh urine smells completely and totally different from the smell of urine that results from spending a large amount of time in unsanitary conditions. The latter would not be mistaken for the former, or vice versa.
 
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well...i think regardless of what the smell actually was, your child should not smell like feces or urine of any sort. I just feel bad that the blame was more on the fact that they were a snake owner rather than that they were clearly not caring for their children (or the animals!) having dead snakes in there bins...and poo around the house, thats just over the top....

I felt just as bad for the snakes as the people
 
wilomn said:
lexie, do you really seriously mean to tell me that you honestly thing urine smells like poop?

My sense of smell is terrible and I can tell them apart quite easily.

I think you may be exaggerating just a tad for effect. When you do that it takes from your credibility.
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I think what she meant here was that reptile poop does not have urine in it, but urates. This makes the reptile poop smell like poop, not urine as we know it. Thus, the urine smell that the teacher smelled on the child probably wasn't caused by reptiles, and was more likely to have been an "accident" that the child had.

Did I get it right?
 
A friend of mine (a teacher) had CPS called on her last week by a neighbor. They told CPS that they were afraid for my friend's kids lives because she heard they can get out...Not that they have...but can...She has a Hog Island and a couple of Ball Pythons and Cornsnakes...Like the kids were in such a huge danger being around these species that are locked up in their own room...CPS didn't take it seriously based on the conversation with the woman who reported her, but they still have to check into every call.
 
wilomn said:
lexie, do you really seriously mean to tell me that you honestly thing urine smells like poop?

My sense of smell is terrible and I can tell them apart quite easily.

I think you may be exaggerating just a tad for effect. When you do that it takes from your credibility.
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I think you misread me. My point is that none of my reptiles nor my friends' have ever made a "movement" that smelled like urine, which makes sense considering reptiles mostly expel feces with a few semi-solid urates. If the teacher smelled urine on that kid, it wasn't because of anything related to the reptiles.
 
And, as somebody started to point out, if the smell was anything other than fresh urine, the smell would most likely be closer to an ammonia smell. Either way tho, the smell had nothing to do with the snakes. It's typical of people now tho, make up your own facts and defend them to the death :( Thankfully nobody ever found out I was keeping 7-9ft long green tree pythons around my children! A snake that long, who knows what could have happened!?
 
Teddy Roosevelt said:
reptiles have urates not urine, and it smells like poop does, not urine.
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Teddy Roosevelt said:
I think you misread me. My point is that none of my reptiles nor my friends' have ever made a "movement" that smelled like urine, which makes sense considering reptiles mostly expel feces with a few semi-solid urates. If the teacher smelled urine on that kid, it wasn't because of anything related to the reptiles.
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Yes it does, no it doesn't, that's not what I meant to say.

Gotcha.
 
CodeRed said:
I think what she meant here was that reptile poop does not have urine in it, but urates. This makes the reptile poop smell like poop, not urine as we know it. Thus, the urine smell that the teacher smelled on the child probably wasn't caused by reptiles, and was more likely to have been an "accident" that the child had.

Did I get it right?
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That's how I read it as well

Teddy Roosevelt said:
Why are you trying to pick a fight about this? So I worded my first post badly. Big deal, let it go.
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I think it was the interpretation...a few of us knew what you were saying :)
 
It is a long engraved fear of reptiles. I know that most of my family back home in Louisiana are terrified of snakes and spiders, which is probably why I love both snakes and spiders.
 
nwheather said:
That's how I read it as well



I think it was the interpretation...a few of us knew what you were saying :)
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Yeah, it was obvious by CodeRed's post that at least one person understood what I meant, it's just his "this takes from your credibility" comment and then insisting I come on and clarify for myself, followed by the snarky comment when I did... either this man truly believes I am so stupid that I don't know the difference between pee and poop or he's looking to start a fight over nothing, and knowing his track record...
 
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