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O my gosh I want a ball python!!!!

And Laurens comment was not even directed at me! More evidence of a blatant attack. Ahh Dave, so naive.
 
no fair, lenny and sm24 have found their destined arch nemesises and i have not,
anyone want to jump around from thread to thread fighting with me?
it will be such fun, we can call each other names and speculate on how we are secretly obsessed with the other, and whether or not the other person is actually who they claim to be etc etc etc, cant wait, looking for my soul mate (but in the reverse)

now what is the topic of this thread?
 
what about all the adults that get pets on a whim? the ones that can't pass up the puppy or kitten at their local pet store.

they don't think about training, who is going to be with the dog while you're at work, where you're going to board the puppy when you go on vacation, what is going to happen when the dog chews every single shoe in the house, how are we going to dog-proof the home office, and so on.

before you know if, they have a dog that is huge and completely out of their hands. pulling, begging, biting, won't sit, won't come, won't walk on a leash, etc. it doesn't take long before they've got their hands full with a dog they have NO idea what to do with.

i know dogs and snakes are on completely different ends of the spectrum, but they are STILL animals, whose lives are in your hands. who is there to tell the adults "NO! you have to go to work! you have a business trip!"

it is unfair to say that kids should not have pets, just because they have futures ahead of them or whatever. most adults don't even know what they're going to be when they grow up, and the number of adults going to school now is growing. adults are just as susceptable to getting swamped with life as a kid is, if not moreso.

from personal experience, i would say a vast majority of pet owners, adults, shouldn't have their pets either.

adults lose interest, too. they can lose the ability to care for their pets.

having pets can be extremely enriching for a child/teenager/young adult.

i am by NO means saying that you should just run out and get as many snakes as you can, without worrying about where they are going to go when you go to college, or whatever. because OF COURSE there needs to be a plan, and OF COURSE it's not a good idea to get way over your head into the reptile hobby, only to have to go away to college. because yes, i have seen many threads on here about these teens up in arms because their parents don't want the kids' snakes left with them.

i just wanted to point out that adults can be just as irresponsible, or tied up with other things, if not more, than teenagers.
 
whoops, shoulda finished reading over the thread before i posted...apparently i was way behind.

i want nothing to do with this.

...backs away slowly...
 
gelshark said:
no fair, lenny and sm24 have found their destined arch nemesises and i have not,
anyone want to jump around from thread to thread fighting with me?
it will be such fun, we can call each other names and speculate on how we are secretly obsessed with the other, and whether or not the other person is actually who they claim to be etc etc etc, cant wait, looking for my soul mate (but in the reverse)

now what is the topic of this thread?
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Ill do it!!! :). Why are you so flippin mad im a ninja!!!! grow up get a life!!!!!!:)
 
I just thought I might add I think I am going to go to college online so I can still live at home. and the college I have all ways been planing on going to if I did go to college is about 15 min from my house.
 
im involved in ball pythons if you are goin to breed start out w a pastel VERY POWERFUL in the breding world or if you can afford it GET A SUPER PASTEL


a pastel will be around 2-3 hundred

super almost 7

check out lemon blasts also
 
Why should ANY child put themselves into a position where they are limiting their choices and potential for college before they even begin??

What if a child with 20 snakes in their room at home gets a good opportunity to attend a college that is outside of their immediate area? What if a school offers them an atheltic scholarship? What if they would REALLY like to attend a study-abroad program as a junior in college? Who will take care of their pets then?

The teenage and college years are far too tumultuous for any child to be the sole caregiver for an animal. If the animal isn't the parents animal, for whom they are responsible and enjoy caring for enough that when the teen is too busy or bored to care for it, they will, then there's no reason for the home to have that pet.

This is the reason why I have always refused sales and adoptions to teenagers, including the teenager in question.
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I don't know anything about Ball Pythons, but I have learned quite a lot about the conflict between responsibility and independence in recent years. I am a third year college student in western MA, but I grew up in New York City with a house and life full of pets; dogs, cats, birds, herps, horses. In some ways I was lucky, the more delicate and difficult to rehome pets like the Anoles died (of natural causes) before I had to leave, but my parakeets didn't like their new home and dropped like flies. My horse was semi retired to a farm that I had to rescue him from 15 months later when he had lost almost 300lbs and was completely emaciated. That left the wolf-dog and the cat, neither of which my parents wanted, both rescues that I couldn't bear to part with. And then, because I was lonely I got King Crimson, the hypo corn.

I wanted to go abroad next semester, but all the people I asked, the people I would have trusted to take care of him said they'd set him free or let him starve. And now my parents are splitting up and selling the house and neither of them want the cat or the dog, but Boon can't be housebroken and he failed obedience school because wolves don't want to please people and my housemates are allergic to cats...so I am stuck.

I inadvertently overextended myself and now I am trapped and it is Boon and Fortune, the cat who are going to suffer for it. How is it fair to poor Boon, epileptic, highly pack oriented and already on his third and supposedly forever home to have to readjust to new people and new places. He is 10 years old, arthritic and really anxious, he needs to be inside with his people, but one by one all his people have abandoned him, and any home we find him would have to be outdoors because no one but me could ever convince anyone to let him inside. Fortune would probably be fine finding a new home, but she and Boon are bonded and being separated would probably kill him.

And, I'm not going abroad. I have no choice but to find a pet friendly apartment with a yard near campus and a job that will pay for it. But apartments aren't covered by financial aid and college loans, and my horses vet bills and board aren't cheap and the people who would live with me are allergic to cats...

So, what I am saying is, you never know. Nothing is definite, and everything is a gamble. Just be responsible and open minded. College is amazing, and my friends who stayed at home regret it. If you have the opportunity, take it, because you're only young once and your parents will only pay for you to learn interesting things and meet interesting people and drink lots of beer once, so do it, and in the meantime don't collect things or pets that will make that experience any harder than it already is.:blowup::blowup::blowup:
 
Wow, well said KingCrimson. I know I would be in the same situation as you if I had pets; I had no plans after high school. But after a year of working, I realized I wanted more. I went to college than move across the country - that would have been harder or impossible with pets. Basically, you never know at such a young age. It is the age of independence, finding your place in life and moving around a lot more than you ever would have imagined two years ago : )

Also, Lennycorn, I'm of the other members who also sees David for what he is. I've just decided to be less active on the form than vocal about it. I miss the old days...
 
Even in middle age it's hard to anticipate what the future holds for me and my animals. My life has completely turned round in the last three years - for the better, but it's going to have potential implications for my snakes. For 20+ years I held permanent office jobs, making my colony of snakes no problem at all. Even with a lengthy daily commute, they were less bother to care for than the cat.

My potential new career currently runs on part-time, voluntary or short-term contracts. Jobs are few and far between, meaning that I may have to move around if I want to follow the work. I have 18 snakes in a market that no longer wants to buy them. When I started my career change, the world was a different place and if the worst happened, I didn't anticipate any problems selling or rehoming my snakes. However, my snakes may now actually prevent me doing what I want to.
 
Even with snakes who only need basic food, water and shelter it is next to impossible to find new homes for them. One snake, you might get lucky or be able to call in a favor, but 25....it's just not feasible. If you want to devote your life to your pets, that is your prerogative, but my advice is wait until you have had a chance to live a little bit, had an adventure and learned some valuable lessons. Take on pets and companion animals because they bring something to your life, not because you think they are cool and make sure that you have a backup plan.
 
v_various said:
Also, Lennycorn, I'm of the other members who also sees David for what he is. I've just decided to be less active on the form than vocal about it. I miss the old days...
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I love you too!
I'm glad you see me for who I am but you have never met me. Assumptions assumptions assumptions. You know what that means.
 
v_various said:
Wow, well said KingCrimson. I know I would be in the same situation as you if I had pets; I had no plans after high school. But after a year of working, I realized I wanted more. I went to college than move across the country - that would have been harder or impossible with pets. Basically, you never know at such a young age. It is the age of independence, finding your place in life and moving around a lot more than you ever would have imagined two years ago : )

Also, Lennycorn, I'm of the other members who also sees David for what he is. I've just decided to be less active on the form than vocal about it. I miss the old days...
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ah yes.....as you see, the true color shine

dull.
 
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