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2 snakes, 1 cage?

There are some boards where cohabbing isn't as big an issue. We're a community like any other and there are bound to be prevailing views at any given time. In five years, you might find things have changed. Experience (and board members) move on.

However I would still ask: How do Corns benefit from cohabbing? I've not seen any benefits listed yet. If there's no firm case against cohabbing, then there should be a list of positives to counter the list of risks.

If there are only risks and no benefits, then there's no argument in favour of cohabbing.

That's not taking a blind stance and refusing to admit to an alternative view. That's looking for a logical alternative view and not finding it, apart from a handful of people who don't want to take advice. Which is their prerogative, but it doesn't mean that cohabbing is good for the Corn.

"I want to keep two Corns together regardless of the risks" isn't a reasoned argument or a counter to an anti-cohabbing stance. If someone can offer a positive view of cohabbing in terms of what benefits the snakes gain, then I'm happy to hear it. All I'm getting at the moment is: "I'll do it because I want to".
 
Let us all agree on something: There are some people who will never listen to reason and will always do whatever their fool heads tell them without thinking about anything other then their own selfish desires. We all run across these guys in our day grind and the best in our best of times may not always hope for something heavy to fall and knock some sense into their inflated heads. Some of these people mentioned refuse to get their cats fixed, keep dogs outside in extreme heat or cold with no shelter, and overcrowd caged and terrarium animals.

Evidence is plucked from the vaults of corn snake husbandry and set down in this thread indicating the fallacies of cohabitation, and only one statement that insinuates under abstract circumstances that it is remotely possible to place two snakes in a single environment despite risks to the health and safety of the animals involved.

There are many snake husbandry practices that were done years ago that are not advisable for today: sand as a substrate, use of over head heat lights, stick on the wall thermometers, housing two solitary snakes together in one enclosure.

Now a pose a question to the adversary, do you know the individual personalities of your snakes so well as to know when they are stressed? I do. I've learned to recognize the habits of my three snakes. If I kept the two corns in the same tank I wouldn't know their idiosyncrasies so well and problems would occur. I know which one would be the aggressor and I know which one would get eaten.
 
oh my goodness!!!! I am somewhat new to this forum and have never posted before...I am shocked at the childish comments sent back and forth!!!
I have two corns housed together...and they are best of friends!!! They follow eachother around, they curl up together, they are constantly interacting. Very rarely are they at apart. Except of course for feedings.
I got my second corn about a week after my first and they lived together in a 10 gal. tank for about a year and a half....never encountered a problem. No signs of stress, eating regular etc. They now live in a 50 gal. and have plenty of hides, but still almost ALWAYS seem to be side by side.
Thats just my personal experience....hope it helps
So i'd have to say....each and every snake is different, It seems saying yes or no is just an individuals recommendation on the subject.....no need to argue = )
 
Dreamsnake said:
Let us all agree on something: There are some people who will never listen to reason and will always do whatever their fool heads tell them without thinking about anything other then their own selfish desires. We all run across these guys in our day grind and the best in our best of times may not always hope for something heavy to fall and knock some sense into their inflated heads. Some of these people mentioned refuse to get their cats fixed, keep dogs outside in extreme heat or cold with no shelter, and overcrowd caged and terrarium animals.
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I wholeheartedly agree!!!!!
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tinkerbella said:
oh my goodness!!!! I am somewhat new to this forum and have never posted before...I am shocked at the childish comments sent back and forth!!!
I have two corns housed together...and they are best of friends!!! They follow eachother around, they curl up together, they are constantly interacting. Very rarely are they at apart. Except of course for feedings.
I got my second corn about a week after my first and they lived together in a 10 gal. tank for about a year and a half....never encountered a problem. No signs of stress, eating regular etc. They now live in a 50 gal. and have plenty of hides, but still almost ALWAYS seem to be side by side.
Thats just my personal experience....hope it helps
So i'd have to say....each and every snake is different, It seems saying yes or no is just an individuals recommendation on the subject.....no need to argue = )
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Honestly, they are not best of friends, they are competing for resources. And if they are a male/female pair you could very well end up with a dead snake. Happened to me.
 
starsevol said:
Honestly, they are not best of friends, they are competing for resources. And if they are a male/female pair you could very well end up with a dead snake. Happened to me.
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you just are not willing to accept that it's possible, are you? we are all in agreement that bad things CAN happen, but don't ALWAYS happen. would you consider that a fair statement? if two snakes can get along, why can't you just let it be?
 
patches152 said:
you just are not willing to accept that it's possible, are you? we are all in agreement that bad things CAN happen, but don't ALWAYS happen. would you consider that a fair statement? if two snakes can get along, why can't you just let it be?
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I think it's fair to say until one of them dies.
 
theyre not competeing for resources...theyre plenty of everything in their home...its a 50 gal plenty of room, hides, humidors, climbs, water bowls etc. Theyre living the life....ill post pics of them when i buy a camera. I'm not trying to argue, i joined this forum to learn more about corns from other owners so i respect your feed back, but I know the signs of stress and mine havnt expressed any....again every snake is different = )
 
dont you think its kind of hard for you to tell me "there not best of friends and they are competeing for resources" with out ever seeing my snakes or their interactions.....
 
Dreamsnake said:
I think it's fair to say until one of them dies.
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every snake dies, not every snake truly lives.

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tinkerbella said:
sorry to hear that.
so you had two living together at one point?....how long until one died???
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The entire story is in my personal forum but the quick version is that I had 2 males that were housed seperately. One I knew was a male, and one was given to me as a male.
I had them in a rack system and it malfunctioned. It nearly started a fire in my house. I had nothing to put them in, so I housed them and 2 females together until a new rack came in. It took a little over 2 weeks.
In that time one of them started to look just a little chubby. I thought nothing of it until "he" laid eggs.
Due to the fact that she was under a huge amount of stress, and also because I didn't give her a laybox (had no idea he was a she) she became eggbound. After 3 vet visits and a huge bill I lost her.
Only 3 of her eggs hatched, all males. One is pictured as my avatar.
 
thats awful sorry to hear that. glad your house didnt burn down!!
That being said, it sounds as if they were all housed together in a quick and stressfull situation and they went from obviously living alone to all four crowded in one box....I think thats a little different. your avatar is a cutie!
 
tinkerbella said:
dont you think its kind of hard for you to tell me "there not best of friends and they are competeing for resources" with out ever seeing my snakes or their interactions.....
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It's not, because scientifically snakes don't form friendships. Sure, there is a chance that both of them could die of old age co habbed and everything could stay just perfect. But the reality is that what you are doing IS exposing your snakes to risks that could impact their heath or kill them. And what you are doing is of no benefit to them.
You are not helping them, but you COULD be hurting them.

In nature where a cornsnake has acres of field to call its home, it will only go near another snake to breed. They don't spend time together at any other time.
By reading this thread, you know the risks. If you choose to ignore the risks, that is your call. Those snakes are your property and if you choose to co hab them, the only ones that will suffer are those snakes if something goes wrong. That's the bottom line.
 
tinkerbella said:
thats awful sorry to hear that. glad your house didnt burn down!!
That being said, it sounds as if they were all housed together in a quick and stressfull situation and they went from obviously living alone to all four crowded in one box....I think thats a little different. your avatar is a cutie!
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I would have never put 4 in one box. I had huge sterlite bins and put 2 of my females in one (can't remember which 2 now, this happened in 2005) and Sniper and Kelsey in the other.

Kato is my avatar. I adore him, he is one of my favorites, but I wish he did not exist because of what happened to his mother.
 
"best of friends" was just my way of writing they get along great....
yes i have read thru most of this post and appreciate all the info i get from this forum...its everyones experiences that we all learn from. SMILE = )
back to work for me...have a great day everyone!!
 
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